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  • 1.  Startup weekend as a research setting

    Posted 08-30-2017 10:45
    Dear colleagues, 

    Has any of you done research using the Startup weekend data, or, seen (published or not) papers using such data? The Startup weekend events seem to provide a good opportunity to study the formation and the early dynamics of entrepreneurial teams...

    Would love to read some existing work utilising the Startup Weekend context, if available :)

    Thank you & Best regards,
    Vivianna
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  • 2.  Startup weekend as a research setting

    Posted 08-30-2017 18:25

    Hi Vivianna,

    I know that you're asking about existing research using Startup Weekend data, but I thought I might add something about the logistics of conducting a study at SW.

    Not sure whether you've ever participated in an SW... During my time as a professor, I've taken some time out to participate in 3 Startup Weekends (2 in Amsterdam, 1 in Hong Kong), and I also coordinated a Startup Weekend in Korea.  That's only a sample of 4, but the SW format and event culture is the same across the board and around the world.

    In general, the Startup Weekend format makes conducting a study very difficult.  Unless you're the coordinator of the SW, you need to be very lucky.

    I imagine you are considering collecting survey data.

    It is generally very difficult to get participants to take a survey on the Friday evening before the event starts; the coordinator likely won't let you.  The registration, dinner and networking transitions quickly, informally, and very organically into the pitches.  The chances that a coordinator would let you disrupt that flow to take a survey or even fill out a 5-minute form, is very low.  And anyways, dinner and pitches are almost always held in venues with a minimal number of tables (to encourage mingling and team formation during the "market vote").  After the pitches, it's chaos.  Basically, collecting data on a Friday night start at SW is generally really difficult.  Your best bet could be to try to get people to take a survey at the registration table, but the chances of getting them to take a survey longer than 30 seconds (!) is also very low.  (The online registration procedure at SW is standardized, and has no functionality to force people to answer survey questions.  For a typical SW with 40 participants, a 10% response rate is not meaningful.)  Thus, for example, studying determinants of team formation would be difficult, if not impossible.

    On Saturday morning, after almost all teams are formed, the coordinator will usually make announcements to the whole room.  That's probably the best moment to collect survey data.  The rest of the day, teams are scattered and difficult to reach.  Basically half the participants don't show up on Sunday until the evening.

    And again, Sunday presentations are a difficult moment to collect survey data, just like Friday night.

    The only data inherently available from Startup Weekend is the market vote on ideas.  But that voting procedure is almost always corrupted, with ideators voting multiple times for their own idea.  The data is corrupt.

    Not my intention to depress... There are others who have thought of collecting data at SW (I'm an entrepreneurship/mgmt professor who coordinated SW Incheon 2015), but it won't be straightforward.  The number of research questions that could be respectfully studied with SW data is quite small.

    I'm happy to discuss more offline.

    Regards, -chihmao.

     

     

     


     

     

     

    Regards, -chihmao

    -------------------------
    Chihmao Hsieh
    Associate Professor of Entrepreneurship
    Yonsei University (UIC)
    

    website: www.chsieh.com
    tel: +82 032 749 3085 

     

     

    -----------------------Original message-----------------------
    From: "Vivianna "<fanghe@GWMAIL.GWU.EDU>
    To: ENTREP@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG
    Sent date: 2017-08-30 23:45:04 GMT +0900 (Asia/Seoul)
    Title: [ENTREP] Startup weekend as a research setting

     

     

    Dear colleagues, 
     
    Has any of you done research using the Startup weekend data, or, seen (published or not) papers using such data? The Startup weekend events seem to provide a good opportunity to study the formation and the early dynamics of entrepreneurial teams...
     
    Would love to read some existing work utilising the Startup Weekend context, if available :)
     
    Thank you & Best regards,
    Vivianna
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  • 3.  Startup weekend as a research setting

    Posted 08-31-2017 05:02
    Dear Chihmao, thank you very much for sharing your experience! And I'm also extremely grateful to many other colleagues who chipped in and offered me their kind advices. This listserv is just wonderful...so happy to be in such a supportive, collegial community!

    I'll be in touch with you from a more updated email address (this email is what I used to signed up to the listserv when I was a doctoral student :) Best regards, Vivianna

    On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 12:24 AM, "Chihmao HSIEH" <c.hsieh@yonsei.ac.kr> wrote:

    Hi Vivianna,

    I know that you're asking about existing research using Startup Weekend data, but I thought I might add something about the logistics of conducting a study at SW.

    Not sure whether you've ever participated in an SW... During my time as a professor, I've taken some time out to participate in 3 Startup Weekends (2 in Amsterdam, 1 in Hong Kong), and I also coordinated a Startup Weekend in Korea.  That's only a sample of 4, but the SW format and event culture is the same across the board and around the world.

    In general, the Startup Weekend format makes conducting a study very difficult.  Unless you're the coordinator of the SW, you need to be very lucky.

    I imagine you are considering collecting survey data.

    It is generally very difficult to get participants to take a survey on the Friday evening before the event starts; the coordinator likely won't let you.  The registration, dinner and networking transitions quickly, informally, and very organically into the pitches.  The chances that a coordinator would let you disrupt that flow to take a survey or even fill out a 5-minute form, is very low.  And anyways, dinner and pitches are almost always held in venues with a minimal number of tables (to encourage mingling and team formation during the "market vote").  After the pitches, it's chaos.  Basically, collecting data on a Friday night start at SW is generally really difficult.  Your best bet could be to try to get people to take a survey at the registration table, but the chances of getting them to take a survey longer than 30 seconds (!) is also very low.  (The online registration procedure at SW is standardized, and has no functionality to force people to answer survey questions.  For a typical SW with 40 participants, a 10% response rate is not meaningful.)  Thus, for example, studying determinants of team formation would be difficult, if not impossible.

    On Saturday morning, after almost all teams are formed, the coordinator will usually make announcements to the whole room.  That's probably the best moment to collect survey data.  The rest of the day, teams are scattered and difficult to reach.  Basically half the participants don't show up on Sunday until the evening.

    And again, Sunday presentations are a difficult moment to collect survey data, just like Friday night.

    The only data inherently available from Startup Weekend is the market vote on ideas.  But that voting procedure is almost always corrupted, with ideators voting multiple times for their own idea.  The data is corrupt.

    Not my intention to depress... There are others who have thought of collecting data at SW (I'm an entrepreneurship/mgmt professor who coordinated SW Incheon 2015), but it won't be straightforward.  The number of research questions that could be respectfully studied with SW data is quite small.

    I'm happy to discuss more offline.

    Regards, -chihmao.

     

     

     


     

     

     

    Regards, -chihmao

    -------------------------
    Chihmao Hsieh
    Associate Professor of Entrepreneurship
    Yonsei University (UIC)
    

    website: www.chsieh.com
    tel: +82 032 749 3085 

     

     

    -----------------------Original message-----------------------
    From: "Vivianna "<fanghe@GWMAIL.GWU.EDU>
    To: ENTREP@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG
    Sent date: 2017-08-30 23:45:04 GMT +0900 (Asia/Seoul)
    Title: [ENTREP] Startup weekend as a research setting

     

     

    Dear colleagues, 
     
    Has any of you done research using the Startup weekend data, or, seen (published or not) papers using such data? The Startup weekend events seem to provide a good opportunity to study the formation and the early dynamics of entrepreneurial teams...
     
    Would love to read some existing work utilising the Startup Weekend context, if available :)
     
    Thank you & Best regards,
    Vivianna
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  • 4.  Startup weekend as a research setting

    Posted 08-31-2017 13:53
    Chihmao - that is not depressing. Let me share my experience in trying to develop an instrument and with being a SW organizer. 

     Vivianna- First step is to get deeply involved yourself. Become an insider. (I guarantee that you will love it. Your colleagues will never get it, alas.) Be on a team or 2. Then become an organizer.

    Way back in the day, there was a serious  move to develop a good pre/post for SW out of Kauffman. Politics got in the way but there is some sentiment that it would be nice to understand at a deep level what impacts arise  (or not) from SW and the like. A study could be sold (even funded!) but only if it is not the typical entrep study. 

    I also guarantee that as a group, SW, Techstars, GEW, et al. are not interested in what Kauffman called "amateur night." The "hey, wouldn't it be fun to do a study on SW?" approach is a bad idea anyway.

    This is the other barrier. How many of our colleagues know even the tiniest amount about how humans learn? Unless you can demonstrate cutting edge expertise at developmental psych, especially cognitive development, your study is not going to be remotely generalizable.  You need not do a full-on RCT but it better be gold standard res design. And you'd better be completely current on the best theory before you even start. This topic is too important.

    HOWEVER... this should NOT be depressing... this is also a huge opportunity to do research that matters. Really matters. 

    And become an insider at a SW (or whatever entrep event outside your school). Few of us spend enough time immersed in the ecosystem as it is.

    Haopy to share more offline - including notes on impact assessment. 


    On Aug 31, 2017 03:47, "Vivianna" <fanghe@gwmail.gwu.edu> wrote:
    Dear Chihmao, thank you very much for sharing your experience! And I'm also extremely grateful to many other colleagues who chipped in and offered me their kind advices. This listserv is just wonderful...so happy to be in such a supportive, collegial community!

    I'll be in touch with you from a more updated email address (this email is what I used to signed up to the listserv when I was a doctoral student :) Best regards, Vivianna

    On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 12:24 AM, "Chihmao HSIEH" <c.hsieh@yonsei.ac.kr> wrote:

    Hi Vivianna,

    I know that you're asking about existing research using Startup Weekend data, but I thought I might add something about the logistics of conducting a study at SW.

    Not sure whether you've ever participated in an SW... During my time as a professor, I've taken some time out to participate in 3 Startup Weekends (2 in Amsterdam, 1 in Hong Kong), and I also coordinated a Startup Weekend in Korea.  That's only a sample of 4, but the SW format and event culture is the same across the board and around the world.

    In general, the Startup Weekend format makes conducting a study very difficult.  Unless you're the coordinator of the SW, you need to be very lucky.

    I imagine you are considering collecting survey data.

    It is generally very difficult to get participants to take a survey on the Friday evening before the event starts; the coordinator likely won't let you.  The registration, dinner and networking transitions quickly, informally, and very organically into the pitches.  The chances that a coordinator would let you disrupt that flow to take a survey or even fill out a 5-minute form, is very low.  And anyways, dinner and pitches are almost always held in venues with a minimal number of tables (to encourage mingling and team formation during the "market vote").  After the pitches, it's chaos.  Basically, collecting data on a Friday night start at SW is generally really difficult.  Your best bet could be to try to get people to take a survey at the registration table, but the chances of getting them to take a survey longer than 30 seconds (!) is also very low.  (The online registration procedure at SW is standardized, and has no functionality to force people to answer survey questions.  For a typical SW with 40 participants, a 10% response rate is not meaningful.)  Thus, for example, studying determinants of team formation would be difficult, if not impossible.

    On Saturday morning, after almost all teams are formed, the coordinator will usually make announcements to the whole room.  That's probably the best moment to collect survey data.  The rest of the day, teams are scattered and difficult to reach.  Basically half the participants don't show up on Sunday until the evening.

    And again, Sunday presentations are a difficult moment to collect survey data, just like Friday night.

    The only data inherently available from Startup Weekend is the market vote on ideas.  But that voting procedure is almost always corrupted, with ideators voting multiple times for their own idea.  The data is corrupt.

    Not my intention to depress... There are others who have thought of collecting data at SW (I'm an entrepreneurship/mgmt professor who coordinated SW Incheon 2015), but it won't be straightforward.  The number of research questions that could be respectfully studied with SW data is quite small.

    I'm happy to discuss more offline.

    Regards, -chihmao.

     

     

     


     

     

     

    Regards, -chihmao

    -------------------------
    Chihmao Hsieh
    Associate Professor of Entrepreneurship
    Yonsei University (UIC)
    

    website: www.chsieh.com
    tel: +82 032 749 3085 

     

     

    -----------------------Original message-----------------------
    From: "Vivianna "<fanghe@GWMAIL.GWU.EDU>
    To: ENTREP@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG
    Sent date: 2017-08-30 23:45:04 GMT +0900 (Asia/Seoul)
    Title: [ENTREP] Startup weekend as a research setting

     

     

    Dear colleagues, 
     
    Has any of you done research using the Startup weekend data, or, seen (published or not) papers using such data? The Startup weekend events seem to provide a good opportunity to study the formation and the early dynamics of entrepreneurial teams...
     
    Would love to read some existing work utilising the Startup Weekend context, if available :)
     
    Thank you & Best regards,
    Vivianna
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