Discussion: View Thread

Business Plan Exercises and Advice?

  • 1.  Business Plan Exercises and Advice?

    Posted 01-22-2017 14:50

    Dear Colleagues,


    I am developing curriculum for a new venture management course and I was wondering if anyone would be willing to share some of their experiences with teaching the development and writing of business plans. 


    What kinds of exercises do you use?  What kind of rubric do you use for grading a business plan?


    Any feedback or advice would be greatly appreciated.


    Best Regards,


    R. Duncan M. Pelly

    Assistant Professor of Management

    California State University, Los Angeles

    ************************************** This message is from ENTREP which is sponsored by the Entrepreneurship Division of the Academy of Management. Please do not post messages with attached files. Commercial messages or spammed messages are not allowed on the list. The use of auto-responder "out-of-office" messages may also lead to your removal from the list. You can manage your subscription options, including joining or leaving the list here: http://aomlists.pace.edu/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=entrep&A=1 If you have questions or need help, please contact Jeff Pollack (jeff_pollack@ncsu.edu) or Kevin Cox (kcox24@my.fau.edu). Ventures HO!


  • 2.  Business Plan Exercises and Advice?

    Posted 01-24-2017 10:29

    Hello -


    I have seen many replies about this, and this relates to an ongoing discussion in our field about business plan vs. business model and all that. I personally am not a business plan proponent as I think students get less value from that exercise, and their time can be better spent learning by doing instead of learning by planning. Not to discount plans - they are necessary sometimes in some situations. But from a learning perspective, try to focus on action.


    Business modeling is a "better" way to get students learning actively. But I have found over the years there are usually some issues with students (and faculty!) still not understanding the business model, how to use it, etc. One good friend explained it to me like this: giving students a business model to use is kind of like giving them all the parts of a car and expecting them to know how to build it.


    What I have come to find most engaging for my students (undergrad business students at a large state university in the sort-of-central US) is getting them focused on problems and customers, and working toward finding product-market fit. A resource I've been using both with my students and in my own personal ventures (with some fantastic results) is the FOCUS Framework (https://thefocusframework.com/). If you'd like, I can make an intro to the wizard behind the curtain - he loves working with educators to customize offering to fit your curriculum or co-curricular efforts.


    Doan

                   
    Doan Winkel
    Assistant Professor of Entrepreneurship
    Illinois State University
    (309) 438-2736
    TEDx Talk     Legacy Out Loud     Teaching Lean Blog
    Twitter     Facebook      LinkedIn  

    From: Entrepreneurship Division Listserv <ENTREP@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG> on behalf of Pelly, Robert Duncan M <rpelly@CALSTATELA.EDU>
    Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 1:49:50 PM
    To: ENTREP@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG
    Subject: Business Plan Exercises and Advice?
     

    Dear Colleagues,


    I am developing curriculum for a new venture management course and I was wondering if anyone would be willing to share some of their experiences with teaching the development and writing of business plans. 


    What kinds of exercises do you use?  What kind of rubric do you use for grading a business plan?


    Any feedback or advice would be greatly appreciated.


    Best Regards,


    R. Duncan M. Pelly

    Assistant Professor of Management

    California State University, Los Angeles

    ************************************** This message is from ENTREP which is sponsored by the Entrepreneurship Division of the Academy of Management. Please do not post messages with attached files. Commercial messages or spammed messages are not allowed on the list. The use of auto-responder "out-of-office" messages may also lead to your removal from the list. You can manage your subscription options, including joining or leaving the list here: http://aomlists.pace.edu/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=entrep&A=1 If you have questions or need help, please contact Jeff Pollack (jeff_pollack@ncsu.edu) or Kevin Cox (kcox24@my.fau.edu). Ventures HO!
    ************************************** This message is from ENTREP which is sponsored by the Entrepreneurship Division of the Academy of Management. Please do not post messages with attached files. Commercial messages or spammed messages are not allowed on the list. The use of auto-responder "out-of-office" messages may also lead to your removal from the list. You can manage your subscription options, including joining or leaving the list here: http://aomlists.pace.edu/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=entrep&A=1 If you have questions or need help, please contact Jeff Pollack (jeff_pollack@ncsu.edu) or Kevin Cox (kcox24@my.fau.edu). Ventures HO!


  • 3.  Business Plan Exercises and Advice?

    Posted 02-11-2017 21:16

    Hi all,

     

    I've been lurking until now with this conversation, but let me add a brief .02.

     

    A b-school course is often not very much like real life from a teambuilding and operational standpoint.  For example, friends and former colleagues may know each other well enough to not need to even consider a business plan or a business model canvas.  We all know how important the quality of the team is, both for optimizing internal organization, as well as for selling the venture to investors.  Where the team presents itself as complementary, cohesive, and commital, formalizing business plan or canvas becomes less necessary.

     

    That said, in general, I see little reason (aside from time and deadline constraints) to not assign student teams to produce *both* business proposal and a business model (canvas).

     

    Specifically, I find that the students learn not only when they write a 12-15 page business proposal, but also when they're asked to slice it down to a 5-page executive summary and then a 200-word gala blurb (e.g. our course's gala/kickout has a program booklet with a 200-word blurb describing each team's venture).  They learn what are the crucial missions or objectives of the venture, as well as what part of the strategy deserves to remain flexible.  Many students always tell me that the slicing down process is just as much of a learning experience as writing the full-fledged document.  They tell me that when they boil their 12-15 "formalized" pages down to 200 words, they not only feel freedom/flexibility, they also feel confident.

     

    Confidence mixed with freedom/flexibility.  That's hard to buy with just proposal or canvas alone.   

     

    From an instructional standpoint, in my opinion, our job as entrepreneurship faculty is to give students taste.  That means they should know the value of--and efforts and mindset that go into--a business proposal and a business model canvas.  If you only ask for one, then ultimately your students have no taste for the other.

     

    Regards, -chihmao. 

     

     


     

     

     

    Regards, -chihmao

    -------------------------
    Chihmao Hsieh
    Associate Professor of Entrepreneurship
    Yonsei University (UIC)
    

    website: www.chsieh.com
    tel: +82 032 749 3085 

     

     

    -----------------------Original message-----------------------
    From: "Winkel, Doan "<dwinkel@ILSTU.EDU>
    To: ENTREP@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG
    Sent date: 2017-01-25 00:28:54 GMT +0900 (Asia/Seoul)
    Title: Re: [ENTREP] Business Plan Exercises and Advice?

     

     

    Hello -

     

    I have seen many replies about this, and this relates to an ongoing discussion in our field about business plan vs. business model and all that. I personally am not a business plan proponent as I think students get less value from that exercise, and their time can be better spent learning by doing instead of learning by planning. Not to discount plans - they are necessary sometimes in some situations. But from a learning perspective, try to focus on action.

     

    Business modeling is a "better" way to get students learning actively. But I have found over the years there are usually some issues with students (and faculty!) still not understanding the business model, how to use it, etc. One good friend explained it to me like this: giving students a business model to use is kind of like giving them all the parts of a car and expecting them to know how to build it.

     

    What I have come to find most engaging for my students (undergrad business students at a large state university in the sort-of-central US) is getting them focused on problems and customers, and working toward finding product-market fit. A resource I've been using both with my students and in my own personal ventures (with some fantastic results) is the FOCUS Framework (https://thefocusframework.com/). If you'd like, I can make an intro to the wizard behind the curtain - he loves working with educators to customize offering to fit your curriculum or co-curricular efforts.

     

    Doan

                   
    Doan Winkel
    Assistant Professor of Entrepreneurship
    Illinois State University
    (309) 438-2736
    TEDx Talk     Legacy Out Loud     Teaching Lean  Blog
    Twitter       Facebook        LinkedIn   
     

    From: Entrepreneurship Division Listserv <ENTREP@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG> on behalf of Pelly, Robert Duncan M <rpelly@CALSTATELA.EDU>
    Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 1:49:50 PM
    To: ENTREP@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG
    Subject: Business Plan Exercises and Advice?
     

    Dear Colleagues,

     

    I am developing curriculum for a new venture management course and I was wondering if anyone would be willing to share some of their experiences with teaching the development and writing of business plans. 

     

    What kinds of exercises do you use?  What kind of rubric do you use for grading a business plan?

     

    Any feedback or advice would be greatly appreciated.

     

    Best Regards,

     

    R. Duncan M. Pelly

    Assistant Professor of Management

    California State University, Los Angeles

    ************************************** This message is from ENTREP which is sponsored by the Entrepreneurship Division of the Academy of Management. Please do not post messages with attached files. Commercial messages or spammed messages are not allowed on the list. The use of auto-responder "out-of-office" messages may also lead to your removal from the list. You can manage your subscription options, including joining or leaving the list here: http://aomlists.pace.edu/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=entrep&A=1 If you have questions or need help, please contact Jeff Pollack (jeff_pollack@ncsu.edu) or Kevin Cox (kcox24@my.fau.edu). Ventures HO!
    ************************************** This message is from ENTREP which is sponsored by the Entrepreneurship Division of the Academy of Management. Please do not post messages with attached files. Commercial messages or spammed messages are not allowed on the list. The use of auto-responder "out-of-office" messages may also lead to your removal from the list. You can manage your subscription options, including joining or leaving the list here: http://aomlists.pace.edu/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=entrep&A=1 If you have questions or need help, please contact Jeff Pollack (jeff_pollack@ncsu.edu) or Kevin Cox (kcox24@my.fau.edu). Ventures HO!

     

    ************************************** This message is from ENTREP which is sponsored by the Entrepreneurship Division of the Academy of Management. Please do not post messages with attached files. Commercial messages or spammed messages are not allowed on the list. The use of auto-responder "out-of-office" messages may also lead to your removal from the list. You can manage your subscription options, including joining or leaving the list here: http://aomlists.pace.edu/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=entrep&A=1 If you have questions or need help, please contact Jeff Pollack (jeff_pollack@ncsu.edu) or Kevin Cox (kcox24@my.fau.edu). Ventures HO!


  • 4.  Business Plan Exercises and Advice?

    Posted 02-11-2017 23:55

    Not to upset everyone's collective apple carts, but while I've read lots of opinion, I see very little referencing of systematic evidence. Without researching how students learn best, and what they learn, under various conditions and with various models, it's all going to be very subjective, isn't it?

    Oh – by the way – one of our two leading journals (ETP) will not publish anything on entrepreneurship education.  Perhaps we can infer it doesn't matter much!

    Regards

    Benson

     

    Benson Honig Ph.D.

    Teresa Cascioli Chair in Entrepreneurial Leadership

    DeGroote School of Business, McMaster University

    Hamilton Ontario Canada L8S4M4

    Tel: 905-525-9140 ext. 23943

    Cell: 905-518-1716

     

     

     

    From: Entrepreneurship Division Listserv <ENTREP@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG> on behalf of Chihmao HSIEH <c.hsieh@YONSEI.AC.KR>
    Reply-To: ""Chihmao HSIEH"" <c.hsieh@YONSEI.AC.KR>
    Date: Saturday, February 11, 2017 at 9:16 PM
    To: "ENTREP@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG" <ENTREP@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG>
    Subject: Re: [ENTREP] Business Plan Exercises and Advice?

     

    Hi all,

     

    I've been lurking until now with this conversation, but let me add a brief .02.

     

    A b-school course is often not very much like real life from a teambuilding and operational standpoint.  For example, friends and former colleagues may know each other well enough to not need to even consider a business plan or a business model canvas.  We all know how important the quality of the team is, both for optimizing internal organization, as well as for selling the venture to investors.  Where the team presents itself as complementary, cohesive, and commital, formalizing business plan or canvas becomes less necessary.

     

    That said, in general, I see little reason (aside from time and deadline constraints) to not assign student teams to produce *both* business proposal and a business model (canvas).

     

    Specifically, I find that the students learn not only when they write a 12-15 page business proposal, but also when they're asked to slice it down to a 5-page executive summary and then a 200-word gala blurb (e.g. our course's gala/kickout has a program booklet with a 200-word blurb describing each team's venture).  They learn what are the crucial missions or objectives of the venture, as well as what part of the strategy deserves to remain flexible.  Many students always tell me that the slicing down process is just as much of a learning experience as writing the full-fledged document.  They tell me that when they boil their 12-15 "formalized" pages down to 200 words, they not only feel freedom/flexibility, they also feel confident.

     

    Confidence mixed with freedom/flexibility.  That's hard to buy with just proposal or canvas alone.   

     

    From an instructional standpoint, in my opinion, our job as entrepreneurship faculty is to give students taste.  That means they should know the value of--and efforts and mindset that go into--a business proposal and a business model canvas.  If you only ask for one, then ultimately your students have no taste for the other.

     

    Regards, -chihmao. 

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Regards, -chihmao

    -------------------------
    Chihmao Hsieh
    Associate Professor of Entrepreneurship
    Yonsei University (UIC)

    website: www.chsieh.com
    tel: +82 032 749 3085 

     

     

    -----------------------Original message-----------------------
    From: "Winkel, Doan "<dwinkel@ILSTU.EDU>
    To: ENTREP@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG
    Sent date: 2017-01-25 00:28:54 GMT +0900 (Asia/Seoul)
    Title: Re: [ENTREP] Business Plan Exercises and Advice?

     

     

    Hello -

     

    I have seen many replies about this, and this relates to an ongoing discussion in our field about business plan vs. business model and all that. I personally am not a business plan proponent as I think students get less value from that exercise, and their time can be better spent learning by doing instead of learning by planning. Not to discount plans - they are necessary sometimes in some situations. But from a learning perspective, try to focus on action.

     

    Business modeling is a "better" way to get students learning actively. But I have found over the years there are usually some issues with students (and faculty!) still not understanding the business model, how to use it, etc. One good friend explained it to me like this: giving students a business model to use is kind of like giving them all the parts of a car and expecting them to know how to build it.

     

    What I have come to find most engaging for my students (undergrad business students at a large state university in the sort-of-central US) is getting them focused on problems and customers, and working toward finding product-market fit. A resource I've been using both with my students and in my own personal ventures (with some fantastic results) is the FOCUS Framework (https://thefocusframework.com/). If you'd like, I can make an intro to the wizard behind the curtain - he loves working with educators to customize offering to fit your curriculum or co-curricular efforts.

     

    Doan

                   
    Doan Winkel
    Assistant Professor of Entrepreneurship
    Illinois State University
    (309) 438-2736
    TEDx Talk     Legacy Out Loud     Teaching Lean  Blog

    Twitter       Facebook        LinkedIn   

     


    From: Entrepreneurship Division Listserv <ENTREP@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG> on behalf of Pelly, Robert Duncan M <rpelly@CALSTATELA.EDU>
    Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 1:49:50 PM
    To: ENTREP@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG
    Subject: Business Plan Exercises and Advice?

     

    Dear Colleagues,

     

    I am developing curriculum for a new venture management course and I was wondering if anyone would be willing to share some of their experiences with teaching the development and writing of business plans. 

     

    What kinds of exercises do you use?  What kind of rubric do you use for grading a business plan?

     

    Any feedback or advice would be greatly appreciated.

     

    Best Regards,

     

    R. Duncan M. Pelly

    Assistant Professor of Management

    California State University, Los Angeles

    ************************************** This message is from ENTREP which is sponsored by the Entrepreneurship Division of the Academy of Management. Please do not post messages with attached files. Commercial messages or spammed messages are not allowed on the list. The use of auto-responder "out-of-office" messages may also lead to your removal from the list. You can manage your subscription options, including joining or leaving the list here: http://aomlists.pace.edu/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=entrep&A=1 If you have questions or need help, please contact Jeff Pollack (jeff_pollack@ncsu.edu) or Kevin Cox (kcox24@my.fau.edu). Ventures HO!

    ************************************** This message is from ENTREP which is sponsored by the Entrepreneurship Division of the Academy of Management. Please do not post messages with attached files. Commercial messages or spammed messages are not allowed on the list. The use of auto-responder "out-of-office" messages may also lead to your removal from the list. You can manage your subscription options, including joining or leaving the list here: http://aomlists.pace.edu/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=entrep&A=1 If you have questions or need help, please contact Jeff Pollack (jeff_pollack@ncsu.edu) or Kevin Cox (kcox24@my.fau.edu). Ventures HO!

     

    ************************************** This message is from ENTREP which is sponsored by the Entrepreneurship Division of the Academy of Management. Please do not post messages with attached files. Commercial messages or spammed messages are not allowed on the list. The use of auto-responder "out-of-office" messages may also lead to your removal from the list. You can manage your subscription options, including joining or leaving the list here: http://aomlists.pace.edu/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=entrep&A=1 If you have questions or need help, please contact Jeff Pollack (jeff_pollack@ncsu.edu) or Kevin Cox (kcox24@my.fau.edu). Ventures HO!

    ************************************** This message is from ENTREP which is sponsored by the Entrepreneurship Division of the Academy of Management. Please do not post messages with attached files. Commercial messages or spammed messages are not allowed on the list. The use of auto-responder "out-of-office" messages may also lead to your removal from the list. You can manage your subscription options, including joining or leaving the list here: http://aomlists.pace.edu/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=entrep&A=1 If you have questions or need help, please contact Jeff Pollack (jeff_pollack@ncsu.edu) or Kevin Cox (kcox24@my.fau.edu). Ventures HO!


  • 5.  Business Plan Exercises and Advice?

    Posted 02-12-2017 09:27
    Benson, it is incorrect that ETP won't publish papers about entrepreneurship education. We are happy for quality submissions in any area relevant to entrepreneurship. 

    Johan

    Sent from the iPhone of 

    Professor Johan Wiklund, PhD

    The Al Berg Chair of Entrepreneurship

    Editor, Entrepreneurship Theory & Practice

    Whitman School of Management

    Syracuse University

    721 University Avenue

    Syracuse, NY 13244


    On Feb 12, 2017, at 07:10, Honig, Benson <bhonig@MCMASTER.CA> wrote:

    Not to upset everyone's collective apple carts, but while I've read lots of opinion, I see very little referencing of systematic evidence. Without researching how students learn best, and what they learn, under various conditions and with various models, it's all going to be very subjective, isn't it?

    Oh – by the way – one of our two leading journals (ETP) will not publish anything on entrepreneurship education.  Perhaps we can infer it doesn't matter much!

    Regards

    Benson

     

    Benson Honig Ph.D.

    Teresa Cascioli Chair in Entrepreneurial Leadership

    DeGroote School of Business, McMaster University

    Hamilton Ontario Canada L8S4M4

    Tel: 905-525-9140 ext. 23943

    Cell: 905-518-1716

     

     

     

    From: Entrepreneurship Division Listserv <ENTREP@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG> on behalf of Chihmao HSIEH <c.hsieh@YONSEI.AC.KR>
    Reply-To: ""Chihmao HSIEH"" <c.hsieh@YONSEI.AC.KR>
    Date: Saturday, February 11, 2017 at 9:16 PM
    To: "ENTREP@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG" <ENTREP@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG>
    Subject: Re: [ENTREP] Business Plan Exercises and Advice?

     

    Hi all,

     

    I've been lurking until now with this conversation, but let me add a brief .02.

     

    A b-school course is often not very much like real life from a teambuilding and operational standpoint.  For example, friends and former colleagues may know each other well enough to not need to even consider a business plan or a business model canvas.  We all know how important the quality of the team is, both for optimizing internal organization, as well as for selling the venture to investors.  Where the team presents itself as complementary, cohesive, and commital, formalizing business plan or canvas becomes less necessary.

     

    That said, in general, I see little reason (aside from time and deadline constraints) to not assign student teams to produce *both* business proposal and a business model (canvas).

     

    Specifically, I find that the students learn not only when they write a 12-15 page business proposal, but also when they're asked to slice it down to a 5-page executive summary and then a 200-word gala blurb (e.g. our course's gala/kickout has a program booklet with a 200-word blurb describing each team's venture).  They learn what are the crucial missions or objectives of the venture, as well as what part of the strategy deserves to remain flexible.  Many students always tell me that the slicing down process is just as much of a learning experience as writing the full-fledged document.  They tell me that when they boil their 12-15 "formalized" pages down to 200 words, they not only feel freedom/flexibility, they also feel confident.

     

    Confidence mixed with freedom/flexibility.  That's hard to buy with just proposal or canvas alone.   

     

    From an instructional standpoint, in my opinion, our job as entrepreneurship faculty is to give students taste.  That means they should know the value of--and efforts and mindset that go into--a business proposal and a business model canvas.  If you only ask for one, then ultimately your students have no taste for the other.

     

    Regards, -chihmao. 

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Regards, -chihmao

    -------------------------
    Chihmao Hsieh
    Associate Professor of Entrepreneurship
    Yonsei University (UIC)

    website: www.chsieh.com
    tel: +82 032 749 3085 

     

     

    -----------------------Original message-----------------------
    From: "Winkel, Doan "<dwinkel@ILSTU.EDU>
    To: ENTREP@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG
    Sent date: 2017-01-25 00:28:54 GMT +0900 (Asia/Seoul)
    Title: Re: [ENTREP] Business Plan Exercises and Advice?

     

     

    Hello -

     

    I have seen many replies about this, and this relates to an ongoing discussion in our field about business plan vs. business model and all that. I personally am not a business plan proponent as I think students get less value from that exercise, and their time can be better spent learning by doing instead of learning by planning. Not to discount plans - they are necessary sometimes in some situations. But from a learning perspective, try to focus on action.

     

    Business modeling is a "better" way to get students learning actively. But I have found over the years there are usually some issues with students (and faculty!) still not understanding the business model, how to use it, etc. One good friend explained it to me like this: giving students a business model to use is kind of like giving them all the parts of a car and expecting them to know how to build it.

     

    What I have come to find most engaging for my students (undergrad business students at a large state university in the sort-of-central US) is getting them focused on problems and customers, and working toward finding product-market fit. A resource I've been using both with my students and in my own personal ventures (with some fantastic results) is the FOCUS Framework (https://thefocusframework.com/). If you'd like, I can make an intro to the wizard behind the curtain - he loves working with educators to customize offering to fit your curriculum or co-curricular efforts.

     

    Doan

                   
    Doan Winkel
    Assistant Professor of Entrepreneurship
    Illinois State University
    (309) 438-2736
    TEDx Talk     Legacy Out Loud     Teaching Lean  Blog

    Twitter       Facebook        LinkedIn   

     


    From: Entrepreneurship Division Listserv <ENTREP@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG> on behalf of Pelly, Robert Duncan M <rpelly@CALSTATELA.EDU>
    Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 1:49:50 PM
    To: ENTREP@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG
    Subject: Business Plan Exercises and Advice?

     

    Dear Colleagues,

     

    I am developing curriculum for a new venture management course and I was wondering if anyone would be willing to share some of their experiences with teaching the development and writing of business plans. 

     

    What kinds of exercises do you use?  What kind of rubric do you use for grading a business plan?

     

    Any feedback or advice would be greatly appreciated.

     

    Best Regards,

     

    R. Duncan M. Pelly

    Assistant Professor of Management

    California State University, Los Angeles

    ************************************** This message is from ENTREP which is sponsored by the Entrepreneurship Division of the Academy of Management. Please do not post messages with attached files. Commercial messages or spammed messages are not allowed on the list. The use of auto-responder "out-of-office" messages may also lead to your removal from the list. You can manage your subscription options, including joining or leaving the list here: http://aomlists.pace.edu/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=entrep&A=1 If you have questions or need help, please contact Jeff Pollack (jeff_pollack@ncsu.edu) or Kevin Cox (kcox24@my.fau.edu). Ventures HO!

    ************************************** This message is from ENTREP which is sponsored by the Entrepreneurship Division of the Academy of Management. Please do not post messages with attached files. Commercial messages or spammed messages are not allowed on the list. The use of auto-responder "out-of-office" messages may also lead to your removal from the list. You can manage your subscription options, including joining or leaving the list here: http://aomlists.pace.edu/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=entrep&A=1 If you have questions or need help, please contact Jeff Pollack (jeff_pollack@ncsu.edu) or Kevin Cox (kcox24@my.fau.edu). Ventures HO!

     

    ************************************** This message is from ENTREP which is sponsored by the Entrepreneurship Division of the Academy of Management. Please do not post messages with attached files. Commercial messages or spammed messages are not allowed on the list. The use of auto-responder "out-of-office" messages may also lead to your removal from the list. You can manage your subscription options, including joining or leaving the list here: http://aomlists.pace.edu/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=entrep&A=1 If you have questions or need help, please contact Jeff Pollack (jeff_pollack@ncsu.edu) or Kevin Cox (kcox24@my.fau.edu). Ventures HO!

    ************************************** This message is from ENTREP which is sponsored by the Entrepreneurship Division of the Academy of Management. Please do not post messages with attached files. Commercial messages or spammed messages are not allowed on the list. The use of auto-responder "out-of-office" messages may also lead to your removal from the list. You can manage your subscription options, including joining or leaving the list here: http://aomlists.pace.edu/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=entrep&A=1 If you have questions or need help, please contact Jeff Pollack (jeff_pollack@ncsu.edu) or Kevin Cox (kcox24@my.fau.edu). Ventures HO!
    ************************************** This message is from ENTREP which is sponsored by the Entrepreneurship Division of the Academy of Management. Please do not post messages with attached files. Commercial messages or spammed messages are not allowed on the list. The use of auto-responder "out-of-office" messages may also lead to your removal from the list. You can manage your subscription options, including joining or leaving the list here: http://aomlists.pace.edu/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=entrep&A=1 If you have questions or need help, please contact Jeff Pollack (jeff_pollack@ncsu.edu) or Kevin Cox (kcox24@my.fau.edu). Ventures HO!


  • 6.  Business Plan Exercises and Advice?

    Posted 02-12-2017 10:37

    Colleagues,

     

    I rarely reply to these listserv messages, but in this case I would like to offer a few observations.  People can do with these data points what they wish.

     

    In addition to my academic activities, I am an active angel investor.  I am making these observations as someone who is an LP in two micro VC funds, one accelerator fund, who has been a member of an angel group. 

     

    Another background "fact" is that among my students here at CWRU, I have 5 out of every class of 25 with "real" businesses, which I define as companies that either have  working prototype, have a term sheet from an investor, have raised some actual money from people other than themselves, revenues, or a legal entity.

     

    Of the +/- 350 efforts to raise money that I received in 2016, roughly 2 provided business plans, about 10 offered executive summaries of business plans, 10 were pitch emails by people who offered nothing else and about 325 sent "pitch decks." 

     

    Based on these numbers, it is my opinion that the ENTP Division of AOM is out of date with reality.  Business plans and business plan competitions are 20th century approaches to the topic.  The accelerators, angel groups, micro VCs etc... are working off of pitch decks.  So my first observation would be that class activities these days should be geared around pitch decks rather than business plans.

     

    My second observation is that there is an enormous gulf between university competitions like Rice Business Plan competition and real world competitions like that at South by Southwest.  In my opinion, training students for university competitions is a bit like elementary schools teaching to the test.  My students who go on to the non-student competitions point out that what was valuable from class is very different from what was valuable to them at the student competitions. 

     

    My third observation is that the business model canvas is useful for many things but its output is not something that you can use directly for funding a business.  With the exception of seeking admission into an accelerator (for which it would be fine), that output does need to be turned into something like a pitch deck to raise money or to communicate with other stakeholders.

     

    My fourth observation is that the world of fundraising today is much broader than Benson suggests.  Online accredited investor platforms like Seed Invest and Circle Up, the rise of angel groups, the rise of micro VC funds, the growth in the number of angels (all of which I have documented in a variety of writings) makes the world very different than that before 2000.  This will only change further with the advent of non-accredited investor crowdfunding, which has barely started in the US.   A founder in Cleveland, Ohio is not restricted the way he or she once was because traditional VC is concentrated in Silicon valley.   But that founder needs to have the right tools for raising money from others.

     

    My fifth observation is that Chuck is spot on about the difference between experienced investors and non-experienced investors on this topic.  The experienced investors look very differently at information than do others and that has a bearing on pedagogy.  A bunch of faculty judging a competition is nothing like true angels and VCs doing it.  The outcomes are likely to be very different.

     

    My sixth observation is that faculty members should think seriously about who in their classes they are teaching to.  The majority of the class will be learning about entrepreneurship, while a minority will be learning to do entrepreneurship.  As educators, I think it is fine to teach to either group, but it is very hard to teach to both simultaneously.  I am sure great teachers can probably pull off both, but not us mere mortals.  The materials and approach needed are  different.  Larger schools have an advantage here because they can offer separate courses to achieve the different types of learning.

     

    My finally observation echoes Johan's.  I think there are articles on entrepreneurship education in ETP.

     

    My apologies to all for the long email.  Every so often, these messages hit a nerve.

     

    Regards,

     

    Scott

     

    From: Entrepreneurship Division Listserv [mailto:ENTREP@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG] On Behalf Of Johan Wiklund
    Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2017 9:27 AM
    To: ENTREP@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG
    Subject: Re: [ENTREP] Business Plan Exercises and Advice?

     

    Benson, it is incorrect that ETP won't publish papers about entrepreneurship education. We are happy for quality submissions in any area relevant to entrepreneurship. 

     

    Johan

    Sent from the iPhone of 

    Professor Johan Wiklund, PhD

    The Al Berg Chair of Entrepreneurship

    Editor, Entrepreneurship Theory & Practice

    Whitman School of Management

    Syracuse University

    721 University Avenue

    Syracuse, NY 13244


    On Feb 12, 2017, at 07:10, Honig, Benson <bhonig@MCMASTER.CA> wrote:

    Not to upset everyone's collective apple carts, but while I've read lots of opinion, I see very little referencing of systematic evidence. Without researching how students learn best, and what they learn, under various conditions and with various models, it's all going to be very subjective, isn't it?

    Oh – by the way – one of our two leading journals (ETP) will not publish anything on entrepreneurship education.  Perhaps we can infer it doesn't matter much!

    Regards

    Benson

     

    Benson Honig Ph.D.

    Teresa Cascioli Chair in Entrepreneurial Leadership

    DeGroote School of Business, McMaster University

    Hamilton Ontario Canada L8S4M4

    Tel: 905-525-9140 ext. 23943

    Cell: 905-518-1716

     

     

     

    From: Entrepreneurship Division Listserv <ENTREP@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG> on behalf of Chihmao HSIEH <c.hsieh@YONSEI.AC.KR>
    Reply-To: ""Chihmao HSIEH"" <c.hsieh@YONSEI.AC.KR>
    Date: Saturday, February 11, 2017 at 9:16 PM
    To: "ENTREP@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG" <ENTREP@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG>
    Subject: Re: [ENTREP] Business Plan Exercises and Advice?

     

    Hi all,

     

    I've been lurking until now with this conversation, but let me add a brief .02.

     

    A b-school course is often not very much like real life from a teambuilding and operational standpoint.  For example, friends and former colleagues may know each other well enough to not need to even consider a business plan or a business model canvas.  We all know how important the quality of the team is, both for optimizing internal organization, as well as for selling the venture to investors.  Where the team presents itself as complementary, cohesive, and commital, formalizing business plan or canvas becomes less necessary.

     

    That said, in general, I see little reason (aside from time and deadline constraints) to not assign student teams to produce *both* business proposal and a business model (canvas).

     

    Specifically, I find that the students learn not only when they write a 12-15 page business proposal, but also when they're asked to slice it down to a 5-page executive summary and then a 200-word gala blurb (e.g. our course's gala/kickout has a program booklet with a 200-word blurb describing each team's venture).  They learn what are the crucial missions or objectives of the venture, as well as what part of the strategy deserves to remain flexible.  Many students always tell me that the slicing down process is just as much of a learning experience as writing the full-fledged document.  They tell me that when they boil their 12-15 "formalized" pages down to 200 words, they not only feel freedom/flexibility, they also feel confident.

     

    Confidence mixed with freedom/flexibility.  That's hard to buy with just proposal or canvas alone.   

     

    From an instructional standpoint, in my opinion, our job as entrepreneurship faculty is to give students taste.  That means they should know the value of--and efforts and mindset that go into--a business proposal and a business model canvas.  If you only ask for one, then ultimately your students have no taste for the other.

     

    Regards, -chihmao. 

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Regards, -chihmao

    -------------------------
    Chihmao Hsieh
    Associate Professor of Entrepreneurship
    Yonsei University (UIC)

    website: www.chsieh.com
    tel: +82 032 749 3085 

     

     

    -----------------------Original message-----------------------
    From: "Winkel, Doan "<dwinkel@ILSTU.EDU>
    To: ENTREP@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG
    Sent date: 2017-01-25 00:28:54 GMT +0900 (Asia/Seoul)
    Title: Re: [ENTREP] Business Plan Exercises and Advice?

     

     

    Hello -

     

    I have seen many replies about this, and this relates to an ongoing discussion in our field about business plan vs. business model and all that. I personally am not a business plan proponent as I think students get less value from that exercise, and their time can be better spent learning by doing instead of learning by planning. Not to discount plans - they are necessary sometimes in some situations. But from a learning perspective, try to focus on action.

     

    Business modeling is a "better" way to get students learning actively. But I have found over the years there are usually some issues with students (and faculty!) still not understanding the business model, how to use it, etc. One good friend explained it to me like this: giving students a business model to use is kind of like giving them all the parts of a car and expecting them to know how to build it.

     

    What I have come to find most engaging for my students (undergrad business students at a large state university in the sort-of-central US) is getting them focused on problems and customers, and working toward finding product-market fit. A resource I've been using both with my students and in my own personal ventures (with some fantastic results) is the FOCUS Framework (https://thefocusframework.com/). If you'd like, I can make an intro to the wizard behind the curtain - he loves working with educators to customize offering to fit your curriculum or co-curricular efforts.

     

    Doan

                   
    Doan Winkel
    Assistant Professor of Entrepreneurship
    Illinois State University
    (309) 438-2736
    TEDx Talk     Legacy Out Loud     Teaching Lean  Blog

    Twitter       Facebook        LinkedIn   

     


    From: Entrepreneurship Division Listserv <ENTREP@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG> on behalf of Pelly, Robert Duncan M <rpelly@CALSTATELA.EDU>
    Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 1:49:50 PM
    To: ENTREP@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG
    Subject: Business Plan Exercises and Advice?

     

    Dear Colleagues,

     

    I am developing curriculum for a new venture management course and I was wondering if anyone would be willing to share some of their experiences with teaching the development and writing of business plans. 

     

    What kinds of exercises do you use?  What kind of rubric do you use for grading a business plan?

     

    Any feedback or advice would be greatly appreciated.

     

    Best Regards,

     

    R. Duncan M. Pelly

    Assistant Professor of Management

    California State University, Los Angeles

    ************************************** This message is from ENTREP which is sponsored by the Entrepreneurship Division of the Academy of Management. Please do not post messages with attached files. Commercial messages or spammed messages are not allowed on the list. The use of auto-responder "out-of-office" messages may also lead to your removal from the list. You can manage your subscription options, including joining or leaving the list here: http://aomlists.pace.edu/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=entrep&A=1 If you have questions or need help, please contact Jeff Pollack (jeff_pollack@ncsu.edu) or Kevin Cox (kcox24@my.fau.edu). Ventures HO!

    ************************************** This message is from ENTREP which is sponsored by the Entrepreneurship Division of the Academy of Management. Please do not post messages with attached files. Commercial messages or spammed messages are not allowed on the list. The use of auto-responder "out-of-office" messages may also lead to your removal from the list. You can manage your subscription options, including joining or leaving the list here: http://aomlists.pace.edu/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=entrep&A=1 If you have questions or need help, please contact Jeff Pollack (jeff_pollack@ncsu.edu) or Kevin Cox (kcox24@my.fau.edu). Ventures HO!

     

    ************************************** This message is from ENTREP which is sponsored by the Entrepreneurship Division of the Academy of Management. Please do not post messages with attached files. Commercial messages or spammed messages are not allowed on the list. The use of auto-responder "out-of-office" messages may also lead to your removal from the list. You can manage your subscription options, including joining or leaving the list here: http://aomlists.pace.edu/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=entrep&A=1 If you have questions or need help, please contact Jeff Pollack (jeff_pollack@ncsu.edu) or Kevin Cox (kcox24@my.fau.edu). Ventures HO!

    ************************************** This message is from ENTREP which is sponsored by the Entrepreneurship Division of the Academy of Management. Please do not post messages with attached files. Commercial messages or spammed messages are not allowed on the list. The use of auto-responder "out-of-office" messages may also lead to your removal from the list. You can manage your subscription options, including joining or leaving the list here: http://aomlists.pace.edu/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=entrep&A=1 If you have questions or need help, please contact Jeff Pollack (jeff_pollack@ncsu.edu) or Kevin Cox (kcox24@my.fau.edu). Ventures HO!

    ************************************** This message is from ENTREP which is sponsored by the Entrepreneurship Division of the Academy of Management. Please do not post messages with attached files. Commercial messages or spammed messages are not allowed on the list. The use of auto-responder "out-of-office" messages may also lead to your removal from the list. You can manage your subscription options, including joining or leaving the list here: http://aomlists.pace.edu/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=entrep&A=1 If you have questions or need help, please contact Jeff Pollack (jeff_pollack@ncsu.edu) or Kevin Cox (kcox24@my.fau.edu). Ventures HO!

    ************************************** This message is from ENTREP which is sponsored by the Entrepreneurship Division of the Academy of Management. Please do not post messages with attached files. Commercial messages or spammed messages are not allowed on the list. The use of auto-responder "out-of-office" messages may also lead to your removal from the list. You can manage your subscription options, including joining or leaving the list here: http://aomlists.pace.edu/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=entrep&A=1 If you have questions or need help, please contact Jeff Pollack (jeff_pollack@ncsu.edu) or Kevin Cox (kcox24@my.fau.edu). Ventures HO!


  • 7.  Business Plan Exercises and Advice?

    Posted 02-12-2017 12:29

    Dear All

     

    This is probably the first time I have ever responded to one of these discussions, but I found Scott's reply to be quite similar to my experiences.

    Even though I am a life-long academic who has studied and taught entrepreneurship for many years, I have been an angel investor for 10 years,  am invested in two different accelerator funds, serve on the board of a couple angel funded companies and have made several investments (successful and unsuccessful) in early stage companies.

     

    I almost never see business plans any more.  One of my research projects (with Linda Edelman and Tatiana Manolova) examines nearly 2000 applications to an angel group over 10 years.  The applications do not require a business plans, but do ask for a pitch deck, a short 2-3 page executive summary, some sort of pro-forma financials, team biographies/information, and supporting documents, which are usually things like market studies or analysis, current sales information, results of clinical testing, recommendations, IP information, product specifications or designs, etc.  Applicants have an option to include business plan, but I would estimate that less than 20% take advantage of this option, and the focus for most of the investors in my group is on documents like  IP/product designs, financials, market studies, and deal structure.   

     

    Our research has found that what makes a business "ready" for funding (e.g. IP, fully formed management team, marketplace traction) is not necessarily the same criterial we apply to assessing business concept ideas of our students.  But, this would make sense because a relatively small percentage of our students are actually launching businesses. I have heard  that the average percentage of students actually starting a  business at graduation is between 10-14% for most schools (it is slightly higher here at Babson  because 100% of our students are required to take entrepreneurship courses, so the rate is closer to 17% depending on class/year.  We do find that 5 years after graduation about 50% of our students are in a start-up, own a small business, or running a new venture in a family business).

     

    So  as educators, I believe our role is to help students to "practice" aspects of entrepreneurship  through experiential learning, but to realize that  a relatively small number of our students will actually engage in starting a new venture.  To this end, we should endeavor to make the experience as relevant and realistic as we can.  Here at Babson College, we took the business plan assignment out of our courses about 6 years ago.  We do use the a variation of the business model canvas as a "tool" to help students in our Butler Venture Accelerator, Win Lab and our required entrepreneurship courses to better understand the connections customers, the value proposition, infrastructure and financial viability.  But we  focus on pitch decks as a deliverable.

     

    Many thanks for this conversation-

    Candy

     

     

    From: Entrepreneurship Division Listserv [mailto:ENTREP@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG] On Behalf Of Scott Shane
    Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2017 10:37 AM
    To: ENTREP@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG
    Subject: Re: [ENTREP] Business Plan Exercises and Advice?

     

    Colleagues,

     

    I rarely reply to these listserv messages, but in this case I would like to offer a few observations.  People can do with these data points what they wish.

     

    In addition to my academic activities, I am an active angel investor.  I am making these observations as someone who is an LP in two micro VC funds, one accelerator fund, who has been a member of an angel group. 

     

    Another background "fact" is that among my students here at CWRU, I have 5 out of every class of 25 with "real" businesses, which I define as companies that either have  working prototype, have a term sheet from an investor, have raised some actual money from people other than themselves, revenues, or a legal entity.

     

    Of the +/- 350 efforts to raise money that I received in 2016, roughly 2 provided business plans, about 10 offered executive summaries of business plans, 10 were pitch emails by people who offered nothing else and about 325 sent "pitch decks." 

     

    Based on these numbers, it is my opinion that the ENTP Division of AOM is out of date with reality.  Business plans and business plan competitions are 20th century approaches to the topic.  The accelerators, angel groups, micro VCs etc... are working off of pitch decks.  So my first observation would be that class activities these days should be geared around pitch decks rather than business plans.

     

    My second observation is that there is an enormous gulf between university competitions like Rice Business Plan competition and real world competitions like that at South by Southwest.  In my opinion, training students for university competitions is a bit like elementary schools teaching to the test.  My students who go on to the non-student competitions point out that what was valuable from class is very different from what was valuable to them at the student competitions. 

     

    My third observation is that the business model canvas is useful for many things but its output is not something that you can use directly for funding a business.  With the exception of seeking admission into an accelerator (for which it would be fine), that output does need to be turned into something like a pitch deck to raise money or to communicate with other stakeholders.

     

    My fourth observation is that the world of fundraising today is much broader than Benson suggests.  Online accredited investor platforms like Seed Invest and Circle Up, the rise of angel groups, the rise of micro VC funds, the growth in the number of angels (all of which I have documented in a variety of writings) makes the world very different than that before 2000.  This will only change further with the advent of non-accredited investor crowdfunding, which has barely started in the US.   A founder in Cleveland, Ohio is not restricted the way he or she once was because traditional VC is concentrated in Silicon valley.   But that founder needs to have the right tools for raising money from others.

     

    My fifth observation is that Chuck is spot on about the difference between experienced investors and non-experienced investors on this topic.  The experienced investors look very differently at information than do others and that has a bearing on pedagogy.  A bunch of faculty judging a competition is nothing like true angels and VCs doing it.  The outcomes are likely to be very different.

     

    My sixth observation is that faculty members should think seriously about who in their classes they are teaching to.  The majority of the class will be learning about entrepreneurship, while a minority will be learning to do entrepreneurship.  As educators, I think it is fine to teach to either group, but it is very hard to teach to both simultaneously.  I am sure great teachers can probably pull off both, but not us mere mortals.  The materials and approach needed are  different.  Larger schools have an advantage here because they can offer separate courses to achieve the different types of learning.

     

    My finally observation echoes Johan's.  I think there are articles on entrepreneurship education in ETP.

     

    My apologies to all for the long email.  Every so often, these messages hit a nerve.

     

    Regards,

     

    Scott

     

    From: Entrepreneurship Division Listserv [mailto:ENTREP@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG] On Behalf Of Johan Wiklund
    Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2017 9:27 AM
    To: ENTREP@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG
    Subject: Re: [ENTREP] Business Plan Exercises and Advice?

     

    Benson, it is incorrect that ETP won't publish papers about entrepreneurship education. We are happy for quality submissions in any area relevant to entrepreneurship. 

     

    Johan

    Sent from the iPhone of 

    Professor Johan Wiklund, PhD

    The Al Berg Chair of Entrepreneurship

    Editor, Entrepreneurship Theory & Practice

    Whitman School of Management

    Syracuse University

    721 University Avenue

    Syracuse, NY 13244


    On Feb 12, 2017, at 07:10, Honig, Benson <bhonig@MCMASTER.CA> wrote:

    Not to upset everyone's collective apple carts, but while I've read lots of opinion, I see very little referencing of systematic evidence. Without researching how students learn best, and what they learn, under various conditions and with various models, it's all going to be very subjective, isn't it?

    Oh – by the way – one of our two leading journals (ETP) will not publish anything on entrepreneurship education.  Perhaps we can infer it doesn't matter much!

    Regards

    Benson

     

    Benson Honig Ph.D.

    Teresa Cascioli Chair in Entrepreneurial Leadership

    DeGroote School of Business, McMaster University

    Hamilton Ontario Canada L8S4M4

    Tel: 905-525-9140 ext. 23943

    Cell: 905-518-1716

     

     

     

    From: Entrepreneurship Division Listserv <ENTREP@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG> on behalf of Chihmao HSIEH <c.hsieh@YONSEI.AC.KR>
    Reply-To: ""Chihmao HSIEH"" <c.hsieh@YONSEI.AC.KR>
    Date: Saturday, February 11, 2017 at 9:16 PM
    To: "ENTREP@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG" <ENTREP@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG>
    Subject: Re: [ENTREP] Business Plan Exercises and Advice?

     

    Hi all,

     

    I've been lurking until now with this conversation, but let me add a brief .02.

     

    A b-school course is often not very much like real life from a teambuilding and operational standpoint.  For example, friends and former colleagues may know each other well enough to not need to even consider a business plan or a business model canvas.  We all know how important the quality of the team is, both for optimizing internal organization, as well as for selling the venture to investors.  Where the team presents itself as complementary, cohesive, and commital, formalizing business plan or canvas becomes less necessary.

     

    That said, in general, I see little reason (aside from time and deadline constraints) to not assign student teams to produce *both* business proposal and a business model (canvas).

     

    Specifically, I find that the students learn not only when they write a 12-15 page business proposal, but also when they're asked to slice it down to a 5-page executive summary and then a 200-word gala blurb (e.g. our course's gala/kickout has a program booklet with a 200-word blurb describing each team's venture).  They learn what are the crucial missions or objectives of the venture, as well as what part of the strategy deserves to remain flexible.  Many students always tell me that the slicing down process is just as much of a learning experience as writing the full-fledged document.  They tell me that when they boil their 12-15 "formalized" pages down to 200 words, they not only feel freedom/flexibility, they also feel confident.

     

    Confidence mixed with freedom/flexibility.  That's hard to buy with just proposal or canvas alone.   

     

    From an instructional standpoint, in my opinion, our job as entrepreneurship faculty is to give students taste.  That means they should know the value of--and efforts and mindset that go into--a business proposal and a business model canvas.  If you only ask for one, then ultimately your students have no taste for the other.

     

    Regards, -chihmao. 

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Regards, -chihmao

    -------------------------
    Chihmao Hsieh
    Associate Professor of Entrepreneurship
    Yonsei University (UIC)

    website: www.chsieh.com
    tel: +82 032 749 3085 

     

     

    -----------------------Original message-----------------------
    From: "Winkel, Doan "<dwinkel@ILSTU.EDU>
    To: ENTREP@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG
    Sent date: 2017-01-25 00:28:54 GMT +0900 (Asia/Seoul)
    Title: Re: [ENTREP] Business Plan Exercises and Advice?

     

     

    Hello -

     

    I have seen many replies about this, and this relates to an ongoing discussion in our field about business plan vs. business model and all that. I personally am not a business plan proponent as I think students get less value from that exercise, and their time can be better spent learning by doing instead of learning by planning. Not to discount plans - they are necessary sometimes in some situations. But from a learning perspective, try to focus on action.

     

    Business modeling is a "better" way to get students learning actively. But I have found over the years there are usually some issues with students (and faculty!) still not understanding the business model, how to use it, etc. One good friend explained it to me like this: giving students a business model to use is kind of like giving them all the parts of a car and expecting them to know how to build it.

     

    What I have come to find most engaging for my students (undergrad business students at a large state university in the sort-of-central US) is getting them focused on problems and customers, and working toward finding product-market fit. A resource I've been using both with my students and in my own personal ventures (with some fantastic results) is the FOCUS Framework (https://thefocusframework.com/). If you'd like, I can make an intro to the wizard behind the curtain - he loves working with educators to customize offering to fit your curriculum or co-curricular efforts.

     

    Doan

                   
    Doan Winkel
    Assistant Professor of Entrepreneurship
    Illinois State University
    (309) 438-2736
    TEDx Talk     Legacy Out Loud     Teaching Lean  Blog

    Twitter       Facebook        LinkedIn   

     


    From: Entrepreneurship Division Listserv <ENTREP@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG> on behalf of Pelly, Robert Duncan M <rpelly@CALSTATELA.EDU>
    Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 1:49:50 PM
    To: ENTREP@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG
    Subject: Business Plan Exercises and Advice?

     

    Dear Colleagues,

     

    I am developing curriculum for a new venture management course and I was wondering if anyone would be willing to share some of their experiences with teaching the development and writing of business plans. 

     

    What kinds of exercises do you use?  What kind of rubric do you use for grading a business plan?

     

    Any feedback or advice would be greatly appreciated.

     

    Best Regards,

     

    R. Duncan M. Pelly

    Assistant Professor of Management

    California State University, Los Angeles

    ************************************** This message is from ENTREP which is sponsored by the Entrepreneurship Division of the Academy of Management. Please do not post messages with attached files. Commercial messages or spammed messages are not allowed on the list. The use of auto-responder "out-of-office" messages may also lead to your removal from the list. You can manage your subscription options, including joining or leaving the list here: http://aomlists.pace.edu/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=entrep&A=1 If you have questions or need help, please contact Jeff Pollack (jeff_pollack@ncsu.edu) or Kevin Cox (kcox24@my.fau.edu). Ventures HO!

    ************************************** This message is from ENTREP which is sponsored by the Entrepreneurship Division of the Academy of Management. Please do not post messages with attached files. Commercial messages or spammed messages are not allowed on the list. The use of auto-responder "out-of-office" messages may also lead to your removal from the list. You can manage your subscription options, including joining or leaving the list here: http://aomlists.pace.edu/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=entrep&A=1 If you have questions or need help, please contact Jeff Pollack (jeff_pollack@ncsu.edu) or Kevin Cox (kcox24@my.fau.edu). Ventures HO!

     

    ************************************** This message is from ENTREP which is sponsored by the Entrepreneurship Division of the Academy of Management. Please do not post messages with attached files. Commercial messages or spammed messages are not allowed on the list. The use of auto-responder "out-of-office" messages may also lead to your removal from the list. You can manage your subscription options, including joining or leaving the list here: http://aomlists.pace.edu/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=entrep&A=1 If you have questions or need help, please contact Jeff Pollack (jeff_pollack@ncsu.edu) or Kevin Cox (kcox24@my.fau.edu). Ventures HO!

    ************************************** This message is from ENTREP which is sponsored by the Entrepreneurship Division of the Academy of Management. Please do not post messages with attached files. Commercial messages or spammed messages are not allowed on the list. The use of auto-responder "out-of-office" messages may also lead to your removal from the list. You can manage your subscription options, including joining or leaving the list here: http://aomlists.pace.edu/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=entrep&A=1 If you have questions or need help, please contact Jeff Pollack (jeff_pollack@ncsu.edu) or Kevin Cox (kcox24@my.fau.edu). Ventures HO!

    ************************************** This message is from ENTREP which is sponsored by the Entrepreneurship Division of the Academy of Management. Please do not post messages with attached files. Commercial messages or spammed messages are not allowed on the list. The use of auto-responder "out-of-office" messages may also lead to your removal from the list. You can manage your subscription options, including joining or leaving the list here: http://aomlists.pace.edu/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=entrep&A=1 If you have questions or need help, please contact Jeff Pollack (jeff_pollack@ncsu.edu) or Kevin Cox (kcox24@my.fau.edu). Ventures HO!

    ************************************** This message is from ENTREP which is sponsored by the Entrepreneurship Division of the Academy of Management. Please do not post messages with attached files. Commercial messages or spammed messages are not allowed on the list. The use of auto-responder "out-of-office" messages may also lead to your removal from the list. You can manage your subscription options, including joining or leaving the list here: http://aomlists.pace.edu/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=entrep&A=1 If you have questions or need help, please contact Jeff Pollack (jeff_pollack@ncsu.edu) or Kevin Cox (kcox24@my.fau.edu). Ventures HO!

    ************************************** This message is from ENTREP which is sponsored by the Entrepreneurship Division of the Academy of Management. Please do not post messages with attached files. Commercial messages or spammed messages are not allowed on the list. The use of auto-responder "out-of-office" messages may also lead to your removal from the list. You can manage your subscription options, including joining or leaving the list here: http://aomlists.pace.edu/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=entrep&A=1 If you have questions or need help, please contact Jeff Pollack (jeff_pollack@ncsu.edu) or Kevin Cox (kcox24@my.fau.edu). Ventures HO!


  • 8.  Business Plan Exercises and Advice?

    Posted 02-12-2017 14:05

    All

     

    Had to weigh in on this. 

     

    A business plan's main possible value is to the entrepreneur – not to the investor.  A key factor today is that investors receive so many solicitations for funds, they don't have time to read/want to read a 25 page business plan (Scott, would you even consider reading 325 x 25 page business plans in a year?).  They want a short and succinct message – something they can skim in 2-3 minutes, be grabbed and then decide to invest more time in learning about a few ventures in subsequent steps – and if you can't sell the investor with a short and succinct message, how can you expect to sell customers who often have equally short (or shorter) attention spans?

     

    To the entrepreneur, writing a business plan may force them to ask and answer important questions of themselves.  But there are other ways this can be achieved also.

     

    What I am always surprised at in these dialogs, is the lack of focus on people, people, people. I personally look at the tenacity, commitment and smarts of the entrepreneur.  A business model canvas (or other approach) is an attempt to simplify and structure the process – but it still takes the right committed people, people, people to succeed. 

     

    Does anyone teach an entrepreneur's HR course??? (Although I don't like using 'HR' but it was the easiest way to ask the question).

     

    Thanks

    Luke

     

     

    From: Entrepreneurship Division Listserv [mailto:ENTREP@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG] On Behalf Of Brush, Candida
    Sent: 02/12/2017 12:29
    To: ENTREP@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG
    Subject: Re: [ENTREP] Business Plan Exercises and Advice?

     

    Dear All

     

    This is probably the first time I have ever responded to one of these discussions, but I found Scott's reply to be quite similar to my experiences.

    Even though I am a life-long academic who has studied and taught entrepreneurship for many years, I have been an angel investor for 10 years,  am invested in two different accelerator funds, serve on the board of a couple angel funded companies and have made several investments (successful and unsuccessful) in early stage companies.

     

    I almost never see business plans any more.  One of my research projects (with Linda Edelman and Tatiana Manolova) examines nearly 2000 applications to an angel group over 10 years.  The applications do not require a business plans, but do ask for a pitch deck, a short 2-3 page executive summary, some sort of pro-forma financials, team biographies/information, and supporting documents, which are usually things like market studies or analysis, current sales information, results of clinical testing, recommendations, IP information, product specifications or designs, etc.  Applicants have an option to include business plan, but I would estimate that less than 20% take advantage of this option, and the focus for most of the investors in my group is on documents like  IP/product designs, financials, market studies, and deal structure.   

     

    Our research has found that what makes a business "ready" for funding (e.g. IP, fully formed management team, marketplace traction) is not necessarily the same criterial we apply to assessing business concept ideas of our students.  But, this would make sense because a relatively small percentage of our students are actually launching businesses. I have heard  that the average percentage of students actually starting a  business at graduation is between 10-14% for most schools (it is slightly higher here at Babson  because 100% of our students are required to take entrepreneurship courses, so the rate is closer to 17% depending on class/year.  We do find that 5 years after graduation about 50% of our students are in a start-up, own a small business, or running a new venture in a family business).

     

    So  as educators, I believe our role is to help students to "practice" aspects of entrepreneurship  through experiential learning, but to realize that  a relatively small number of our students will actually engage in starting a new venture.  To this end, we should endeavor to make the experience as relevant and realistic as we can.  Here at Babson College, we took the business plan assignment out of our courses about 6 years ago.  We do use the a variation of the business model canvas as a "tool" to help students in our Butler Venture Accelerator, Win Lab and our required entrepreneurship courses to better understand the connections customers, the value proposition, infrastructure and financial viability.  But we  focus on pitch decks as a deliverable.

     

    Many thanks for this conversation-

    Candy

     

     

    From: Entrepreneurship Division Listserv [mailto:ENTREP@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG] On Behalf Of Scott Shane
    Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2017 10:37 AM
    To: ENTREP@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG
    Subject: Re: [ENTREP] Business Plan Exercises and Advice?

     

    Colleagues,

     

    I rarely reply to these listserv messages, but in this case I would like to offer a few observations.  People can do with these data points what they wish.

     

    In addition to my academic activities, I am an active angel investor.  I am making these observations as someone who is an LP in two micro VC funds, one accelerator fund, who has been a member of an angel group. 

     

    Another background "fact" is that among my students here at CWRU, I have 5 out of every class of 25 with "real" businesses, which I define as companies that either have  working prototype, have a term sheet from an investor, have raised some actual money from people other than themselves, revenues, or a legal entity.

     

    Of the +/- 350 efforts to raise money that I received in 2016, roughly 2 provided business plans, about 10 offered executive summaries of business plans, 10 were pitch emails by people who offered nothing else and about 325 sent "pitch decks." 

     

    Based on these numbers, it is my opinion that the ENTP Division of AOM is out of date with reality.  Business plans and business plan competitions are 20th century approaches to the topic.  The accelerators, angel groups, micro VCs etc... are working off of pitch decks.  So my first observation would be that class activities these days should be geared around pitch decks rather than business plans.

     

    My second observation is that there is an enormous gulf between university competitions like Rice Business Plan competition and real world competitions like that at South by Southwest.  In my opinion, training students for university competitions is a bit like elementary schools teaching to the test.  My students who go on to the non-student competitions point out that what was valuable from class is very different from what was valuable to them at the student competitions. 

     

    My third observation is that the business model canvas is useful for many things but its output is not something that you can use directly for funding a business.  With the exception of seeking admission into an accelerator (for which it would be fine), that output does need to be turned into something like a pitch deck to raise money or to communicate with other stakeholders.

     

    My fourth observation is that the world of fundraising today is much broader than Benson suggests.  Online accredited investor platforms like Seed Invest and Circle Up, the rise of angel groups, the rise of micro VC funds, the growth in the number of angels (all of which I have documented in a variety of writings) makes the world very different than that before 2000.  This will only change further with the advent of non-accredited investor crowdfunding, which has barely started in the US.   A founder in Cleveland, Ohio is not restricted the way he or she once was because traditional VC is concentrated in Silicon valley.   But that founder needs to have the right tools for raising money from others.

     

    My fifth observation is that Chuck is spot on about the difference between experienced investors and non-experienced investors on this topic.  The experienced investors look very differently at information than do others and that has a bearing on pedagogy.  A bunch of faculty judging a competition is nothing like true angels and VCs doing it.  The outcomes are likely to be very different.

     

    My sixth observation is that faculty members should think seriously about who in their classes they are teaching to.  The majority of the class will be learning about entrepreneurship, while a minority will be learning to do entrepreneurship.  As educators, I think it is fine to teach to either group, but it is very hard to teach to both simultaneously.  I am sure great teachers can probably pull off both, but not us mere mortals.  The materials and approach needed are  different.  Larger schools have an advantage here because they can offer separate courses to achieve the different types of learning.

     

    My finally observation echoes Johan's.  I think there are articles on entrepreneurship education in ETP.

     

    My apologies to all for the long email.  Every so often, these messages hit a nerve.

     

    Regards,

     

    Scott

     

    From: Entrepreneurship Division Listserv [mailto:ENTREP@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG] On Behalf Of Johan Wiklund
    Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2017 9:27 AM
    To: ENTREP@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG
    Subject: Re: [ENTREP] Business Plan Exercises and Advice?

     

    Benson, it is incorrect that ETP won't publish papers about entrepreneurship education. We are happy for quality submissions in any area relevant to entrepreneurship. 

     

    Johan

    Sent from the iPhone of 

    Professor Johan Wiklund, PhD

    The Al Berg Chair of Entrepreneurship

    Editor, Entrepreneurship Theory & Practice

    Whitman School of Management

    Syracuse University

    721 University Avenue

    Syracuse, NY 13244


    On Feb 12, 2017, at 07:10, Honig, Benson <bhonig@MCMASTER.CA> wrote:

    Not to upset everyone's collective apple carts, but while I've read lots of opinion, I see very little referencing of systematic evidence. Without researching how students learn best, and what they learn, under various conditions and with various models, it's all going to be very subjective, isn't it?

    Oh – by the way – one of our two leading journals (ETP) will not publish anything on entrepreneurship education.  Perhaps we can infer it doesn't matter much!

    Regards

    Benson

     

    Benson Honig Ph.D.

    Teresa Cascioli Chair in Entrepreneurial Leadership

    DeGroote School of Business, McMaster University

    Hamilton Ontario Canada L8S4M4

    Tel: 905-525-9140 ext. 23943

    Cell: 905-518-1716

     

     

     

    From: Entrepreneurship Division Listserv <ENTREP@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG> on behalf of Chihmao HSIEH <c.hsieh@YONSEI.AC.KR>
    Reply-To: ""Chihmao HSIEH"" <c.hsieh@YONSEI.AC.KR>
    Date: Saturday, February 11, 2017 at 9:16 PM
    To: "ENTREP@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG" <ENTREP@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG>
    Subject: Re: [ENTREP] Business Plan Exercises and Advice?

     

    Hi all,

     

    I've been lurking until now with this conversation, but let me add a brief .02.

     

    A b-school course is often not very much like real life from a teambuilding and operational standpoint.  For example, friends and former colleagues may know each other well enough to not need to even consider a business plan or a business model canvas.  We all know how important the quality of the team is, both for optimizing internal organization, as well as for selling the venture to investors.  Where the team presents itself as complementary, cohesive, and commital, formalizing business plan or canvas becomes less necessary.

     

    That said, in general, I see little reason (aside from time and deadline constraints) to not assign student teams to produce *both* business proposal and a business model (canvas).

     

    Specifically, I find that the students learn not only when they write a 12-15 page business proposal, but also when they're asked to slice it down to a 5-page executive summary and then a 200-word gala blurb (e.g. our course's gala/kickout has a program booklet with a 200-word blurb describing each team's venture).  They learn what are the crucial missions or objectives of the venture, as well as what part of the strategy deserves to remain flexible.  Many students always tell me that the slicing down process is just as much of a learning experience as writing the full-fledged document.  They tell me that when they boil their 12-15 "formalized" pages down to 200 words, they not only feel freedom/flexibility, they also feel confident.

     

    Confidence mixed with freedom/flexibility.  That's hard to buy with just proposal or canvas alone.   

     

    From an instructional standpoint, in my opinion, our job as entrepreneurship faculty is to give students taste.  That means they should know the value of--and efforts and mindset that go into--a business proposal and a business model canvas.  If you only ask for one, then ultimately your students have no taste for the other.

     

    Regards, -chihmao. 

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Regards, -chihmao

    -------------------------
    Chihmao Hsieh
    Associate Professor of Entrepreneurship
    Yonsei University (UIC)

    website: www.chsieh.com
    tel: +82 032 749 3085 

     

     

    -----------------------Original message-----------------------
    From: "Winkel, Doan "<dwinkel@ILSTU.EDU>
    To: ENTREP@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG
    Sent date: 2017-01-25 00:28:54 GMT +0900 (Asia/Seoul)
    Title: Re: [ENTREP] Business Plan Exercises and Advice?

     

     

    Hello -

     

    I have seen many replies about this, and this relates to an ongoing discussion in our field about business plan vs. business model and all that. I personally am not a business plan proponent as I think students get less value from that exercise, and their time can be better spent learning by doing instead of learning by planning. Not to discount plans - they are necessary sometimes in some situations. But from a learning perspective, try to focus on action.

     

    Business modeling is a "better" way to get students learning actively. But I have found over the years there are usually some issues with students (and faculty!) still not understanding the business model, how to use it, etc. One good friend explained it to me like this: giving students a business model to use is kind of like giving them all the parts of a car and expecting them to know how to build it.

     

    What I have come to find most engaging for my students (undergrad business students at a large state university in the sort-of-central US) is getting them focused on problems and customers, and working toward finding product-market fit. A resource I've been using both with my students and in my own personal ventures (with some fantastic results) is the FOCUS Framework (https://thefocusframework.com/). If you'd like, I can make an intro to the wizard behind the curtain - he loves working with educators to customize offering to fit your curriculum or co-curricular efforts.

     

    Doan

                   
    Doan Winkel
    Assistant Professor of Entrepreneurship
    Illinois State University
    (309) 438-2736
    TEDx Talk     Legacy Out Loud     Teaching Lean  Blog

    Twitter       Facebook        LinkedIn   

     


    From: Entrepreneurship Division Listserv <ENTREP@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG> on behalf of Pelly, Robert Duncan M <rpelly@CALSTATELA.EDU>
    Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 1:49:50 PM
    To: ENTREP@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG
    Subject: Business Plan Exercises and Advice?

     

    Dear Colleagues,

     

    I am developing curriculum for a new venture management course and I was wondering if anyone would be willing to share some of their experiences with teaching the development and writing of business plans. 

     

    What kinds of exercises do you use?  What kind of rubric do you use for grading a business plan?

     

    Any feedback or advice would be greatly appreciated.

     

    Best Regards,

     

    R. Duncan M. Pelly

    Assistant Professor of Management

    California State University, Los Angeles

    ************************************** This message is from ENTREP which is sponsored by the Entrepreneurship Division of the Academy of Management. Please do not post messages with attached files. Commercial messages or spammed messages are not allowed on the list. The use of auto-responder "out-of-office" messages may also lead to your removal from the list. You can manage your subscription options, including joining or leaving the list here: http://aomlists.pace.edu/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=entrep&A=1 If you have questions or need help, please contact Jeff Pollack (jeff_pollack@ncsu.edu) or Kevin Cox (kcox24@my.fau.edu). Ventures HO!

    ************************************** This message is from ENTREP which is sponsored by the Entrepreneurship Division of the Academy of Management. Please do not post messages with attached files. Commercial messages or spammed messages are not allowed on the list. The use of auto-responder "out-of-office" messages may also lead to your removal from the list. You can manage your subscription options, including joining or leaving the list here: http://aomlists.pace.edu/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=entrep&A=1 If you have questions or need help, please contact Jeff Pollack (jeff_pollack@ncsu.edu) or Kevin Cox (kcox24@my.fau.edu). Ventures HO!

     

    ************************************** This message is from ENTREP which is sponsored by the Entrepreneurship Division of the Academy of Management. Please do not post messages with attached files. Commercial messages or spammed messages are not allowed on the list. The use of auto-responder "out-of-office" messages may also lead to your removal from the list. You can manage your subscription options, including joining or leaving the list here: http://aomlists.pace.edu/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=entrep&A=1 If you have questions or need help, please contact Jeff Pollack (jeff_pollack@ncsu.edu) or Kevin Cox (kcox24@my.fau.edu). Ventures HO!

    ************************************** This message is from ENTREP which is sponsored by the Entrepreneurship Division of the Academy of Management. Please do not post messages with attached files. Commercial messages or spammed messages are not allowed on the list. The use of auto-responder "out-of-office" messages may also lead to your removal from the list. You can manage your subscription options, including joining or leaving the list here: http://aomlists.pace.edu/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=entrep&A=1 If you have questions or need help, please contact Jeff Pollack (jeff_pollack@ncsu.edu) or Kevin Cox (kcox24@my.fau.edu). Ventures HO!

    ************************************** This message is from ENTREP which is sponsored by the Entrepreneurship Division of the Academy of Management. Please do not post messages with attached files. Commercial messages or spammed messages are not allowed on the list. The use of auto-responder "out-of-office" messages may also lead to your removal from the list. You can manage your subscription options, including joining or leaving the list here: http://aomlists.pace.edu/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=entrep&A=1 If you have questions or need help, please contact Jeff Pollack (jeff_pollack@ncsu.edu) or Kevin Cox (kcox24@my.fau.edu). Ventures HO!

    ************************************** This message is from ENTREP which is sponsored by the Entrepreneurship Division of the Academy of Management. Please do not post messages with attached files. Commercial messages or spammed messages are not allowed on the list. The use of auto-responder "out-of-office" messages may also lead to your removal from the list. You can manage your subscription options, including joining or leaving the list here: http://aomlists.pace.edu/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=entrep&A=1 If you have questions or need help, please contact Jeff Pollack (jeff_pollack@ncsu.edu) or Kevin Cox (kcox24@my.fau.edu). Ventures HO!

    ************************************** This message is from ENTREP which is sponsored by the Entrepreneurship Division of the Academy of Management. Please do not post messages with attached files. Commercial messages or spammed messages are not allowed on the list. The use of auto-responder "out-of-office" messages may also lead to your removal from the list. You can manage your subscription options, including joining or leaving the list here: http://aomlists.pace.edu/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=entrep&A=1 If you have questions or need help, please contact Jeff Pollack (jeff_pollack@ncsu.edu) or Kevin Cox (kcox24@my.fau.edu). Ventures HO!

    ************************************** This message is from ENTREP which is sponsored by the Entrepreneurship Division of the Academy of Management. Please do not post messages with attached files. Commercial messages or spammed messages are not allowed on the list. The use of auto-responder "out-of-office" messages may also lead to your removal from the list. You can manage your subscription options, including joining or leaving the list here: http://aomlists.pace.edu/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=entrep&A=1 If you have questions or need help, please contact Jeff Pollack (jeff_pollack@ncsu.edu) or Kevin Cox (kcox24@my.fau.edu). Ventures HO!


  • 9.  Business Plan Exercises and Advice?

    Posted 02-12-2017 16:25
    Love this discussion, and I apologize in advance for the length of this reply.

    Feasibility Assessments? Business plan vs. business model in my mind is not the right contrast. Before the business plan wasn't there supposed to be some sort of prior assessment? For decades those were called feasibility analyses, and that is where the entrepreneur was supposed to generate, explore, expand, refine and test ideas to get to the best one and write a business plan about that. Put that way, whether you do a FastTrac feasibility analysis, a Business Model Canvas, or StraightupBusiness/theInnographer Really Big Idea screen, we should have students and entrepreneurs do something faster and more flexible to get from "plan a" to "plan b" or "plan 213". And getting that done is probably the task to be done before the business plan class. 

    Consider that a "business plan" class doesn't not have to strictly be about a classic business plan. In our business plan classes, we offer students these options:


    1.     A traditional business plan, for a start-up business or expansion of an existing business. The plan should be suitable for fund-seeking, or presentation to a joint-venture partner or prospective C-level manager for the business.

    2.     A traditional business plan for a high-tech or high-risk business (as evaluated by the teaching team). In this approach, the final grade gets an adjustment upward based on the high-risk elements. Otherwise the plan is evaluated according to the same grading format. High-risk plans include tech transfer projects, most high-technology projects (not including most apps, software or websites), firms requiring major (multi-million dollar) investments to operate, or firms employing more than 20 people from the start. These plans would be strictly written to seek funding. 

    3.     Basic business start-up – for many basic small businesses, a full plan is not needed. In these cases (negotiated with the teaching team), the student will develop their basic web site, pitch deck, a screening plan (5 page executive summary and full financials – suitable for presentation to a banker), and presentation and will begin operations during the semester (either sales, fund-seeking or both). Milestones for the operations will be established at the start of the semester.  Grading is based on the products produced, the presentation, and achievement of the milestones.

    4.     The "$50,000" (or 25%) challenge – Submit a screening plan, and the company books. During the semester, grow the business to/by $50,000 from scratch, or 25% over historic/traditional levels, whichever is more.


    The vast majority of students opt for the first two options, but it is easy enough to provide options, and the student discussions when there are alternative approaches in play are really interesting. BTW, all our courses are co-taught by standing faculty and practicing entrepreneurs, and every plan adds outside judges (often prospective funders, customers, or both).

    Different strokes: Like Candy and Scott, I am an investor (founder of our University's angel network, investor in an accelerator started by a program alum, solo angel investing in businesses, etc.) and agree there are more ways to invest than ever before, but to me that means that entrepreneurs need to be ready to generate more platform-specific documents than ever before. Part of our task as educators now is to prepare students for as many of these as possible. A really well-done lean start-up effort can give the students the fine-grained expertise about their business that holds up well in the give and take with potential investors, but if the lean start-up isn't top notch, a business plan is probably a more consistent way to get students to think through the details of different parts of the business. Right now I see more variability in lean start-up efforts than I do in business plans (such is the one element in favor of a quarter-century or more of institutionalization). But as educators, we need to help our students know how to do business plans, feasibility studies (canvases, FastTrac studies, etc.), pitch decks and the like. In the end, to help them play in this growing financing space, we need to teach them all of these.

    Funding Realities: The other reason the "all of these" is important comes when we think about the results of the empirical research on the financials of how firms get started. While at the high-end of the investment continuum there are more ways than ever, the vast majority of start-ups are still primarily funded in the traditional ways - FFF's, personal savings, credit card financing, the occasional bank loan. Crowdfunding and angel funding, while happening at higher levels than ever before, are still a tiny minority of how start-ups are funded. Rich Aunt Mildred, her accountant or attorney, your parents, and probably your local banker doesn't know what a business model canvas is. They all expect a business plan. If you're doing a build-it-yourself manufacturing business, anything with FDA mentioned in the process, or something else taking years to bring to fruition, money people will want to see a business plan. If you're not in an area with strong start-up norms, people will want to see business plans. It is changing, but there are probably geographic and industry settings where plans are and will be the price of entry for the foreseeable future. 

    Controlling the narrative: One other thought. When using a canvas or lean start-up for funding, the canvas is the "high concept" of the idea. The details are actually in the data room entrepreneurs are supposed to make available. Rarely does the canvas hyperlink or footnote to elements of the data room, so investors doing due diligence face a pile of data, and end up having to make sense of it themselves. In these situations, what the entrepreneur is giving up is the ability to establish the story, because in our world, the business plan is the detailed story of the business, with links to the specifics held in financials, appendices and (hopefully) data rooms. The investor may disagree with the interpretation or the data selection, but the entrepreneur gets to structure the story as they see it. It is harder to do that at anything like the same level of detail when one is limited to a single-sheet canvas. With experience, we will find a way to handle this (more hotlinks in online canvases?), but in the meantime the most complete and controllable way to get one's point across the way they want to is the business plan. But that only works if the investors are willing to deal with one.

    Head-to-head comparisons: I want to mention that Benson and Christian Hopp did craft a comparison of traditional business planning and lean start-up approaches last year (http://www.emeraldinsight.com/doi/abs/10.1108/S1074-754020160000018003), and more of these would be useful for us all as we work through these issues.

    Great thoughts, everyone. Great discussion. Keep it up.

    Jerry Katz
    ************************************** This message is from ENTREP which is sponsored by the Entrepreneurship Division of the Academy of Management. Please do not post messages with attached files. Commercial messages or spammed messages are not allowed on the list. The use of auto-responder "out-of-office" messages may also lead to your removal from the list. You can manage your subscription options, including joining or leaving the list here: http://aomlists.pace.edu/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=entrep&A=1 If you have questions or need help, please contact Jeff Pollack (jeff_pollack@ncsu.edu) or Kevin Cox (kcox24@my.fau.edu). Ventures HO!


  • 10.  Business Plan Exercises and Advice?

    Posted 02-12-2017 15:13

    Dear all:

    I agree in principle with some of the comments discussed – but I can't help but emphasize that if we stick with our own subjective perceptions, instead of research based evidence, we run the risk of considerable bias and erroneous conclusions. In medical terms, we would still be bloodletting and burning pitch to fight of miasma. We seem to go from 'hot' item to 'hot' item with little informed research, and lots of 'hunches'. Thus, classroom techniques either about what is entrepreneurship or experiential learning regarding how to do (or not to do!) entrepreneurship should be measured, tested, validated, and improved.

    I was very happy to see Johan indicate that ET&P will now consider research on entrepreneurship education (it was previously discouraged – and there was a period where such articles were simply unwelcome). In the end, we should all consider what we are trying to accomplish. What may work for some people in Cleveland or Boston might not be relevant to Nebraska, Scotland, or Kampala. Does our education primarily impact students 10 years later? If so, is there something wrong with that?  Or, what if it just makes people happier with the career they eventually select?  Isn't that an important learning outcome as well?

    Europeans have been making considerable progress on extending entrepreneurship education to include design thinking, innovation, and intrapreneurship. Are we in the 'business' of creating wealth for angel investors (a small minority of the population, including a few of us academics) or for helping our students develop a career and satisfied life? 

    As to the 21st century methods – kickstarter and block-chain investing both seem to be in the future – and neither of them particularly require powerpoint presentations, business plans, elevator talks, nor business plan canvases.

     

    Benson Honig Ph.D.

    Teresa Cascioli Chair in Entrepreneurial Leadership

    DeGroote School of Business, McMaster University

    Hamilton Ontario Canada L8S4M4

    Tel: 905-525-9140 ext. 23943

    Cell: 905-518-1716

     

     

     

    From: Entrepreneurship Division Listserv <ENTREP@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG> on behalf of "Brush, Candida" <cbrush@BABSON.EDU>
    Reply-To: "Brush, Candida" <cbrush@BABSON.EDU>
    Date: Sunday, February 12, 2017 at 12:29 PM
    To: "ENTREP@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG" <ENTREP@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG>
    Subject: Re: [ENTREP] Business Plan Exercises and Advice?

     

    Dear All

     

    This is probably the first time I have ever responded to one of these discussions, but I found Scott's reply to be quite similar to my experiences.

    Even though I am a life-long academic who has studied and taught entrepreneurship for many years, I have been an angel investor for 10 years,  am invested in two different accelerator funds, serve on the board of a couple angel funded companies and have made several investments (successful and unsuccessful) in early stage companies.

     

    I almost never see business plans any more.  One of my research projects (with Linda Edelman and Tatiana Manolova) examines nearly 2000 applications to an angel group over 10 years.  The applications do not require a business plans, but do ask for a pitch deck, a short 2-3 page executive summary, some sort of pro-forma financials, team biographies/information, and supporting documents, which are usually things like market studies or analysis, current sales information, results of clinical testing, recommendations, IP information, product specifications or designs, etc.  Applicants have an option to include business plan, but I would estimate that less than 20% take advantage of this option, and the focus for most of the investors in my group is on documents like  IP/product designs, financials, market studies, and deal structure.   

     

    Our research has found that what makes a business "ready" for funding (e.g. IP, fully formed management team, marketplace traction) is not necessarily the same criterial we apply to assessing business concept ideas of our students.  But, this would make sense because a relatively small percentage of our students are actually launching businesses. I have heard  that the average percentage of students actually starting a  business at graduation is between 10-14% for most schools (it is slightly higher here at Babson  because 100% of our students are required to take entrepreneurship courses, so the rate is closer to 17% depending on class/year.  We do find that 5 years after graduation about 50% of our students are in a start-up, own a small business, or running a new venture in a family business).

     

    So  as educators, I believe our role is to help students to "practice" aspects of entrepreneurship  through experiential learning, but to realize that  a relatively small number of our students will actually engage in starting a new venture.  To this end, we should endeavor to make the experience as relevant and realistic as we can.  Here at Babson College, we took the business plan assignment out of our courses about 6 years ago.  We do use the a variation of the business model canvas as a "tool" to help students in our Butler Venture Accelerator, Win Lab and our required entrepreneurship courses to better understand the connections customers, the value proposition, infrastructure and financial viability.  But we  focus on pitch decks as a deliverable.

     

    Many thanks for this conversation-

    Candy

     

     

    From: Entrepreneurship Division Listserv [mailto:ENTREP@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG] On Behalf Of Scott Shane
    Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2017 10:37 AM
    To: ENTREP@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG
    Subject: Re: [ENTREP] Business Plan Exercises and Advice?

     

    Colleagues,

     

    I rarely reply to these listserv messages, but in this case I would like to offer a few observations.  People can do with these data points what they wish.

     

    In addition to my academic activities, I am an active angel investor.  I am making these observations as someone who is an LP in two micro VC funds, one accelerator fund, who has been a member of an angel group. 

     

    Another background "fact" is that among my students here at CWRU, I have 5 out of every class of 25 with "real" businesses, which I define as companies that either have  working prototype, have a term sheet from an investor, have raised some actual money from people other than themselves, revenues, or a legal entity.

     

    Of the +/- 350 efforts to raise money that I received in 2016, roughly 2 provided business plans, about 10 offered executive summaries of business plans, 10 were pitch emails by people who offered nothing else and about 325 sent "pitch decks." 

     

    Based on these numbers, it is my opinion that the ENTP Division of AOM is out of date with reality.  Business plans and business plan competitions are 20th century approaches to the topic.  The accelerators, angel groups, micro VCs etc... are working off of pitch decks.  So my first observation would be that class activities these days should be geared around pitch decks rather than business plans.

     

    My second observation is that there is an enormous gulf between university competitions like Rice Business Plan competition and real world competitions like that at South by Southwest.  In my opinion, training students for university competitions is a bit like elementary schools teaching to the test.  My students who go on to the non-student competitions point out that what was valuable from class is very different from what was valuable to them at the student competitions. 

     

    My third observation is that the business model canvas is useful for many things but its output is not something that you can use directly for funding a business.  With the exception of seeking admission into an accelerator (for which it would be fine), that output does need to be turned into something like a pitch deck to raise money or to communicate with other stakeholders.

     

    My fourth observation is that the world of fundraising today is much broader than Benson suggests.  Online accredited investor platforms like Seed Invest and Circle Up, the rise of angel groups, the rise of micro VC funds, the growth in the number of angels (all of which I have documented in a variety of writings) makes the world very different than that before 2000.  This will only change further with the advent of non-accredited investor crowdfunding, which has barely started in the US.   A founder in Cleveland, Ohio is not restricted the way he or she once was because traditional VC is concentrated in Silicon valley.   But that founder needs to have the right tools for raising money from others.

     

    My fifth observation is that Chuck is spot on about the difference between experienced investors and non-experienced investors on this topic.  The experienced investors look very differently at information than do others and that has a bearing on pedagogy.  A bunch of faculty judging a competition is nothing like true angels and VCs doing it.  The outcomes are likely to be very different.

     

    My sixth observation is that faculty members should think seriously about who in their classes they are teaching to.  The majority of the class will be learning about entrepreneurship, while a minority will be learning to do entrepreneurship.  As educators, I think it is fine to teach to either group, but it is very hard to teach to both simultaneously.  I am sure great teachers can probably pull off both, but not us mere mortals.  The materials and approach needed are  different.  Larger schools have an advantage here because they can offer separate courses to achieve the different types of learning.

     

    My finally observation echoes Johan's.  I think there are articles on entrepreneurship education in ETP.

     

    My apologies to all for the long email.  Every so often, these messages hit a nerve.

     

    Regards,

     

    Scott

     

    From: Entrepreneurship Division Listserv [mailto:ENTREP@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG] On Behalf Of Johan Wiklund
    Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2017 9:27 AM
    To: ENTREP@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG
    Subject: Re: [ENTREP] Business Plan Exercises and Advice?

     

    Benson, it is incorrect that ETP won't publish papers about entrepreneurship education. We are happy for quality submissions in any area relevant to entrepreneurship. 

     

    Johan

    Sent from the iPhone of 

    Professor Johan Wiklund, PhD

    The Al Berg Chair of Entrepreneurship

    Editor, Entrepreneurship Theory & Practice

    Whitman School of Management

    Syracuse University

    721 University Avenue

    Syracuse, NY 13244


    On Feb 12, 2017, at 07:10, Honig, Benson <bhonig@MCMASTER.CA> wrote:

    Not to upset everyone's collective apple carts, but while I've read lots of opinion, I see very little referencing of systematic evidence. Without researching how students learn best, and what they learn, under various conditions and with various models, it's all going to be very subjective, isn't it?

    Oh – by the way – one of our two leading journals (ETP) will not publish anything on entrepreneurship education.  Perhaps we can infer it doesn't matter much!

    Regards

    Benson

     

    Benson Honig Ph.D.

    Teresa Cascioli Chair in Entrepreneurial Leadership

    DeGroote School of Business, McMaster University

    Hamilton Ontario Canada L8S4M4

    Tel: 905-525-9140 ext. 23943

    Cell: 905-518-1716

     

     

     

    From: Entrepreneurship Division Listserv <ENTREP@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG> on behalf of Chihmao HSIEH <c.hsieh@YONSEI.AC.KR>
    Reply-To: ""Chihmao HSIEH"" <c.hsieh@YONSEI.AC.KR>
    Date: Saturday, February 11, 2017 at 9:16 PM
    To: "ENTREP@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG" <ENTREP@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG>
    Subject: Re: [ENTREP] Business Plan Exercises and Advice?

     

    Hi all,

     

    I've been lurking until now with this conversation, but let me add a brief .02.

     

    A b-school course is often not very much like real life from a teambuilding and operational standpoint.  For example, friends and former colleagues may know each other well enough to not need to even consider a business plan or a business model canvas.  We all know how important the quality of the team is, both for optimizing internal organization, as well as for selling the venture to investors.  Where the team presents itself as complementary, cohesive, and commital, formalizing business plan or canvas becomes less necessary.

     

    That said, in general, I see little reason (aside from time and deadline constraints) to not assign student teams to produce *both* business proposal and a business model (canvas).

     

    Specifically, I find that the students learn not only when they write a 12-15 page business proposal, but also when they're asked to slice it down to a 5-page executive summary and then a 200-word gala blurb (e.g. our course's gala/kickout has a program booklet with a 200-word blurb describing each team's venture).  They learn what are the crucial missions or objectives of the venture, as well as what part of the strategy deserves to remain flexible.  Many students always tell me that the slicing down process is just as much of a learning experience as writing the full-fledged document.  They tell me that when they boil their 12-15 "formalized" pages down to 200 words, they not only feel freedom/flexibility, they also feel confident.

     

    Confidence mixed with freedom/flexibility.  That's hard to buy with just proposal or canvas alone.   

     

    From an instructional standpoint, in my opinion, our job as entrepreneurship faculty is to give students taste.  That means they should know the value of--and efforts and mindset that go into--a business proposal and a business model canvas.  If you only ask for one, then ultimately your students have no taste for the other.

     

    Regards, -chihmao. 

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Regards, -chihmao

    -------------------------
    Chihmao Hsieh
    Associate Professor of Entrepreneurship
    Yonsei University (UIC)

    website: www.chsieh.com
    tel: +82 032 749 3085 

     

     

    -----------------------Original message-----------------------
    From: "Winkel, Doan "<dwinkel@ILSTU.EDU>
    To: ENTREP@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG
    Sent date: 2017-01-25 00:28:54 GMT +0900 (Asia/Seoul)
    Title: Re: [ENTREP] Business Plan Exercises and Advice?

     

     

    Hello -

     

    I have seen many replies about this, and this relates to an ongoing discussion in our field about business plan vs. business model and all that. I personally am not a business plan proponent as I think students get less value from that exercise, and their time can be better spent learning by doing instead of learning by planning. Not to discount plans - they are necessary sometimes in some situations. But from a learning perspective, try to focus on action.

     

    Business modeling is a "better" way to get students learning actively. But I have found over the years there are usually some issues with students (and faculty!) still not understanding the business model, how to use it, etc. One good friend explained it to me like this: giving students a business model to use is kind of like giving them all the parts of a car and expecting them to know how to build it.

     

    What I have come to find most engaging for my students (undergrad business students at a large state university in the sort-of-central US) is getting them focused on problems and customers, and working toward finding product-market fit. A resource I've been using both with my students and in my own personal ventures (with some fantastic results) is the FOCUS Framework (https://thefocusframework.com/). If you'd like, I can make an intro to the wizard behind the curtain - he loves working with educators to customize offering to fit your curriculum or co-curricular efforts.

     

    Doan

                   
    Doan Winkel
    Assistant Professor of Entrepreneurship
    Illinois State University
    (309) 438-2736
    TEDx Talk     Legacy Out Loud     Teaching Lean  Blog

    Twitter       Facebook        LinkedIn   

     


    From: Entrepreneurship Division Listserv <ENTREP@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG> on behalf of Pelly, Robert Duncan M <rpelly@CALSTATELA.EDU>
    Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 1:49:50 PM
    To: ENTREP@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG
    Subject: Business Plan Exercises and Advice?

     

    Dear Colleagues,

     

    I am developing curriculum for a new venture management course and I was wondering if anyone would be willing to share some of their experiences with teaching the development and writing of business plans. 

     

    What kinds of exercises do you use?  What kind of rubric do you use for grading a business plan?

     

    Any feedback or advice would be greatly appreciated.

     

    Best Regards,

     

    R. Duncan M. Pelly

    Assistant Professor of Management

    California State University, Los Angeles

    ************************************** This message is from ENTREP which is sponsored by the Entrepreneurship Division of the Academy of Management. Please do not post messages with attached files. Commercial messages or spammed messages are not allowed on the list. The use of auto-responder "out-of-office" messages may also lead to your removal from the list. You can manage your subscription options, including joining or leaving the list here: http://aomlists.pace.edu/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=entrep&A=1 If you have questions or need help, please contact Jeff Pollack (jeff_pollack@ncsu.edu) or Kevin Cox (kcox24@my.fau.edu). Ventures HO!

    ************************************** This message is from ENTREP which is sponsored by the Entrepreneurship Division of the Academy of Management. Please do not post messages with attached files. Commercial messages or spammed messages are not allowed on the list. The use of auto-responder "out-of-office" messages may also lead to your removal from the list. You can manage your subscription options, including joining or leaving the list here: http://aomlists.pace.edu/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=entrep&A=1 If you have questions or need help, please contact Jeff Pollack (jeff_pollack@ncsu.edu) or Kevin Cox (kcox24@my.fau.edu). Ventures HO!

     

    ************************************** This message is from ENTREP which is sponsored by the Entrepreneurship Division of the Academy of Management. Please do not post messages with attached files. Commercial messages or spammed messages are not allowed on the list. The use of auto-responder "out-of-office" messages may also lead to your removal from the list. You can manage your subscription options, including joining or leaving the list here: http://aomlists.pace.edu/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=entrep&A=1 If you have questions or need help, please contact Jeff Pollack (jeff_pollack@ncsu.edu) or Kevin Cox (kcox24@my.fau.edu). Ventures HO!

    ************************************** This message is from ENTREP which is sponsored by the Entrepreneurship Division of the Academy of Management. Please do not post messages with attached files. Commercial messages or spammed messages are not allowed on the list. The use of auto-responder "out-of-office" messages may also lead to your removal from the list. You can manage your subscription options, including joining or leaving the list here: http://aomlists.pace.edu/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=entrep&A=1 If you have questions or need help, please contact Jeff Pollack (jeff_pollack@ncsu.edu) or Kevin Cox (kcox24@my.fau.edu). Ventures HO!

    ************************************** This message is from ENTREP which is sponsored by the Entrepreneurship Division of the Academy of Management. Please do not post messages with attached files. Commercial messages or spammed messages are not allowed on the list. The use of auto-responder "out-of-office" messages may also lead to your removal from the list. You can manage your subscription options, including joining or leaving the list here: http://aomlists.pace.edu/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=entrep&A=1 If you have questions or need help, please contact Jeff Pollack (jeff_pollack@ncsu.edu) or Kevin Cox (kcox24@my.fau.edu). Ventures HO!

    ************************************** This message is from ENTREP which is sponsored by the Entrepreneurship Division of the Academy of Management. Please do not post messages with attached files. Commercial messages or spammed messages are not allowed on the list. The use of auto-responder "out-of-office" messages may also lead to your removal from the list. You can manage your subscription options, including joining or leaving the list here: http://aomlists.pace.edu/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=entrep&A=1 If you have questions or need help, please contact Jeff Pollack (jeff_pollack@ncsu.edu) or Kevin Cox (kcox24@my.fau.edu). Ventures HO!

    ************************************** This message is from ENTREP which is sponsored by the Entrepreneurship Division of the Academy of Management. Please do not post messages with attached files. Commercial messages or spammed messages are not allowed on the list. The use of auto-responder "out-of-office" messages may also lead to your removal from the list. You can manage your subscription options, including joining or leaving the list here: http://aomlists.pace.edu/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=entrep&A=1 If you have questions or need help, please contact Jeff Pollack (jeff_pollack@ncsu.edu) or Kevin Cox (kcox24@my.fau.edu). Ventures HO!

    ************************************** This message is from ENTREP which is sponsored by the Entrepreneurship Division of the Academy of Management. Please do not post messages with attached files. Commercial messages or spammed messages are not allowed on the list. The use of auto-responder "out-of-office" messages may also lead to your removal from the list. You can manage your subscription options, including joining or leaving the list here: http://aomlists.pace.edu/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=entrep&A=1 If you have questions or need help, please contact Jeff Pollack (jeff_pollack@ncsu.edu) or Kevin Cox (kcox24@my.fau.edu). Ventures HO!


  • 11.  Business Plan Exercises and Advice?

    Posted 02-12-2017 00:23
    > Without researching how students learn best, and
    > what they learn, under various conditions and with
    > various models, it's all going to be very subjective,
    > isn't it?


    Hi Benson,

    I, for one, agree. But yet I still appreciate hearing everybody's opinion. I'm glad that I don't have to wait for a peer-reviewed study to hear about different approaches that I can experiment with, for my own course!!

    Personally I'm OK with research that covers the mindset or process behind entrepreneurial activities. That's different from "state of entrepreneurship education" historical journalism.

    Regards, -chihmao

     

     

     

    Regards, -chihmao

    -------------------------
    Chihmao Hsieh
    Associate Professor of Entrepreneurship
    Yonsei University (UIC)
    

    website: www.chsieh.com
    tel: +82 032 749 3085 

     

     

     

     

    -----------------------원본 메세지-----------------------
    보낸사람: "Honig, Benson "<bhonig@mcmaster.ca>
    받는사람: ""Chihmao HSIEH"" <c.hsieh@YONSEI.AC.KR>,"ENTREP@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG" <ENTREP@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG>
    보낸시간: 2017-02-12 13:54:36 GMT +0900 (Asia/Seoul)
    제목: Re: [ENTREP] Business Plan Exercises and Advice?

     

     

    Not to upset everyone's collective apple carts, but while I've read lots of opinion, I see very little referencing of systematic evidence. Without researching how students learn best, and what they learn, under various conditions and with various models, it's all going to be very subjective, isn't it?

    Oh – by the way – one of our two leading journals (ETP) will not publish anything on entrepreneurship education.  Perhaps we can infer it doesn't matter much!

    Regards

    Benson

     

    Benson Honig Ph.D.

    Teresa Cascioli Chair in Entrepreneurial Leadership

    DeGroote School of Business, McMaster University

    Hamilton Ontario Canada L8S4M4

    Tel: 905-525-9140 ext. 23943

    Cell: 905-518-1716

     

     

     

    From: Entrepreneurship Division Listserv <ENTREP@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG> on behalf of Chihmao HSIEH <c.hsieh@YONSEI.AC.KR>
    Reply-To: ""Chihmao HSIEH"" <c.hsieh@YONSEI.AC.KR>
    Date: Saturday, February 11, 2017 at 9:16 PM
    To: "ENTREP@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG" <ENTREP@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG>
    Subject: Re: [ENTREP] Business Plan Exercises and Advice?

     

    Hi all,

     

    I've been lurking until now with this conversation, but let me add a brief .02.

     

    A b-school course is often not very much like real life from a teambuilding and operational standpoint.  For example, friends and former colleagues may know each other well enough to not need to even consider a business plan or a business model canvas.  We all know how important the quality of the team is, both for optimizing internal organization, as well as for selling the venture to investors.  Where the team presents itself as complementary, cohesive, and commital, formalizing business plan or canvas becomes less necessary.

     

    That said, in general, I see little reason (aside from time and deadline constraints) to not assign student teams to produce *both* business proposal and a business model (canvas).

     

    Specifically, I find that the students learn not only when they write a 12-15 page business proposal, but also when they're asked to slice it down to a 5-page executive summary and then a 200-word gala blurb (e.g. our course's gala/kickout has a program booklet with a 200-word blurb describing each team's venture).  They learn what are the crucial missions or objectives of the venture, as well as what part of the strategy deserves to remain flexible.  Many students always tell me that the slicing down process is just as much of a learning experience as writing the full-fledged document.  They tell me that when they boil their 12-15 "formalized" pages down to 200 words, they not only feel freedom/flexibility, they also feel confident.

     

    Confidence mixed with freedom/flexibility.  That's hard to buy with just proposal or canvas alone.   

     

    From an instructional standpoint, in my opinion, our job as entrepreneurship faculty is to give students taste.  That means they should know the value of--and efforts and mindset that go into--a business proposal and a business model canvas.  If you only ask for one, then ultimately your students have no taste for the other.

     

    Regards, -chihmao. 

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Regards, -chihmao

    -------------------------
    Chihmao Hsieh
    Associate Professor of Entrepreneurship
    Yonsei University (UIC)

    website: www.chsieh.com
    tel: +82 032 749 3085 

     

     

    -----------------------Original message-----------------------
    From: "Winkel, Doan "<dwinkel@ILSTU.EDU>
    To: ENTREP@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG
    Sent date: 2017-01-25 00:28:54 GMT +0900 (Asia/Seoul)
    Title: Re: [ENTREP] Business Plan Exercises and Advice?

     

     

    Hello -

     

    I have seen many replies about this, and this relates to an ongoing discussion in our field about business plan vs. business model and all that. I personally am not a business plan proponent as I think students get less value from that exercise, and their time can be better spent learning by doing instead of learning by planning. Not to discount plans - they are necessary sometimes in some situations. But from a learning perspective, try to focus on action.

     

    Business modeling is a "better" way to get students learning actively. But I have found over the years there are usually some issues with students (and faculty!) still not understanding the business model, how to use it, etc. One good friend explained it to me like this: giving students a business model to use is kind of like giving them all the parts of a car and expecting them to know how to build it.

     

    What I have come to find most engaging for my students (undergrad business students at a large state university in the sort-of-central US) is getting them focused on problems and customers, and working toward finding product-market fit. A resource I've been using both with my students and in my own personal ventures (with some fantastic results) is the FOCUS Framework (https://thefocusframework.com/). If you'd like, I can make an intro to the wizard behind the curtain - he loves working with educators to customize offering to fit your curriculum or co-curricular efforts.

     

    Doan

                   
    Doan Winkel
    Assistant Professor of Entrepreneurship
    Illinois State University
    (309) 438-2736
    TEDx Talk     Legacy Out Loud     Teaching Lean  Blog

    Twitter       Facebook        LinkedIn   

     


    From: Entrepreneurship Division Listserv <ENTREP@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG> on behalf of Pelly, Robert Duncan M <rpelly@CALSTATELA.EDU>
    Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 1:49:50 PM
    To: ENTREP@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG
    Subject: Business Plan Exercises and Advice?

     

    Dear Colleagues,

     

    I am developing curriculum for a new venture management course and I was wondering if anyone would be willing to share some of their experiences with teaching the development and writing of business plans. 

     

    What kinds of exercises do you use?  What kind of rubric do you use for grading a business plan?

     

    Any feedback or advice would be greatly appreciated.

     

    Best Regards,

     

    R. Duncan M. Pelly

    Assistant Professor of Management

    California State University, Los Angeles

    ************************************** This message is from ENTREP which is sponsored by the Entrepreneurship Division of the Academy of Management. Please do not post messages with attached files. Commercial messages or spammed messages are not allowed on the list. The use of auto-responder "out-of-office" messages may also lead to your removal from the list. You can manage your subscription options, including joining or leaving the list here: http://aomlists.pace.edu/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=entrep&A=1 If you have questions or need help, please contact Jeff Pollack (jeff_pollack@ncsu.edu) or Kevin Cox (kcox24@my.fau.edu). Ventures HO!

    ************************************** This message is from ENTREP which is sponsored by the Entrepreneurship Division of the Academy of Management. Please do not post messages with attached files. Commercial messages or spammed messages are not allowed on the list. The use of auto-responder "out-of-office" messages may also lead to your removal from the list. You can manage your subscription options, including joining or leaving the list here: http://aomlists.pace.edu/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=entrep&A=1 If you have questions or need help, please contact Jeff Pollack (jeff_pollack@ncsu.edu) or Kevin Cox (kcox24@my.fau.edu). Ventures HO!

     

    ************************************** This message is from ENTREP which is sponsored by the Entrepreneurship Division of the Academy of Management. Please do not post messages with attached files. Commercial messages or spammed messages are not allowed on the list. The use of auto-responder "out-of-office" messages may also lead to your removal from the list. You can manage your subscription options, including joining or leaving the list here: http://aomlists.pace.edu/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=entrep&A=1 If you have questions or need help, please contact Jeff Pollack (jeff_pollack@ncsu.edu) or Kevin Cox (kcox24@my.fau.edu). Ventures HO!

    ************************************** This message is from ENTREP which is sponsored by the Entrepreneurship Division of the Academy of Management. Please do not post messages with attached files. Commercial messages or spammed messages are not allowed on the list. The use of auto-responder "out-of-office" messages may also lead to your removal from the list. You can manage your subscription options, including joining or leaving the list here: http://aomlists.pace.edu/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=entrep&A=1 If you have questions or need help, please contact Jeff Pollack (jeff_pollack@ncsu.edu) or Kevin Cox (kcox24@my.fau.edu). Ventures HO!


  • 12.  Business Plan Exercises and Advice?

    Posted 02-12-2017 09:24
    All,

    Everyone's thoughts and advice are valuable, even if only as
    a message of what not to do. Let me make a few suggestions.
    First, in my opinion, the REAL QUESTION is not the particulars
    of how you have your students write Business Plans or Executive
    Summaries, it is who you have review them. When I was still
    teaching, the ONLY judges I would ever use were professional
    angels and VCs. They cut through most of the "crap" really
    quickly. They also knew more about starting successful new
    ventures than any academic I have met even though they do not
    publish their methods in any academic journal. Second, not
    everyone teaches in locations where they can access angels and
    VCs easily. However, one thing that everyone can do is to have
    their students submit their plans to one of the 6 major business
    plan competitions. In the order in which they are normally held,
    These include (1) The Georgia Bowl, (2) Louisville's Cardinal
    Challenge, (3) Nebraska's World Challenge, (4) Manitoba's Stu
    Clarke Competition, (5) Oregon's New Venture Championship, and
    (6) Rice's Business Plan Competition. If your teams do NOT get
    accepted at one of these, it says that you are NOT doing a good
    job. Why? Because most of these competitions use angels and
    VCs to screen the various applicants that they receive. One final
    point. while I have listed the six major national-international
    business plan competitions above, there are a number of local
    and regional competitions held around the country. To get started,
    I recommend looking them up and have your teams apply to one or
    more of these first.

    Respectfully,
    Chuck Hofer
    Retired E-Professor

    **************************************
    This message is from ENTREP which is sponsored by the Entrepreneurship Division of the Academy of Management.

    Please do not post messages with attached files. Commercial messages or spammed messages are not allowed on the list. The use of auto-responder "out-of-office" messages may also lead to your removal from the list.

    You can manage your subscription options, including joining or leaving the list here:
    http://aomlists.pace.edu/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=entrep&A=1

    If you have questions or need help, please contact Jeff Pollack (jeff_pollack@ncsu.edu) or Kevin Cox (kcox24@my.fau.edu).

    Ventures HO!


  • 13.  Business Plan Exercises and Advice?

    Posted 02-12-2017 09:43
    Chuck, VC’s represent only a tiny fragment of the entrepreneurial world. If your students want to aim for one of those, best to move to Silicon Valley, and try and get into Y combinator or something. In any case, if your business is good enough to deserve VC, it probably won’t matter whether you have a plan or not – or win a competition or not - they’ll write it for you.
    Most entrepreneurial start-ups are far more modest – even the ones that eventually succeed as high growth, often begin with more modest growth. We should be asking ourselves, as we teach entrepreneurship – are we teaching to create the next facebook entrepreneurs (one in a million) or are we teaching to help individuals decide on possible alternative career choices? Once we answer this question, we can begin thinking about how best to facilitate a set of pedagogical tools.
    Regards
    Benson

    Benson Honig Ph.D.
    Teresa Cascioli Chair in Entrepreneurial Leadership

    DeGroote School of Business, McMaster University

    Hamilton Ontario Canada L8S4M4

    Tel: 905-525-9140 ext. 23943

    Cell: 905-518-1716

    Email: Bhonig@mcmaster.ca





    On 2017-02-12, 9:24 AM, "Entrepreneurship Division Listserv on behalf of Charles Hofer" <ENTREP@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG on behalf of chofer@KENNESAW.EDU> wrote:

    All,

    Everyone's thoughts and advice are valuable, even if only as
    a message of what not to do. Let me make a few suggestions.
    First, in my opinion, the REAL QUESTION is not the particulars
    of how you have your students write Business Plans or Executive
    Summaries, it is who you have review them. When I was still
    teaching, the ONLY judges I would ever use were professional
    angels and VCs. They cut through most of the "crap" really
    quickly. They also knew more about starting successful new
    ventures than any academic I have met even though they do not
    publish their methods in any academic journal. Second, not
    everyone teaches in locations where they can access angels and
    VCs easily. However, one thing that everyone can do is to have
    their students submit their plans to one of the 6 major business
    plan competitions. In the order in which they are normally held,
    These include (1) The Georgia Bowl, (2) Louisville's Cardinal
    Challenge, (3) Nebraska's World Challenge, (4) Manitoba's Stu
    Clarke Competition, (5) Oregon's New Venture Championship, and
    (6) Rice's Business Plan Competition. If your teams do NOT get
    accepted at one of these, it says that you are NOT doing a good
    job. Why? Because most of these competitions use angels and
    VCs to screen the various applicants that they receive. One final
    point. while I have listed the six major national-international
    business plan competitions above, there are a number of local
    and regional competitions held around the country. To get started,
    I recommend looking them up and have your teams apply to one or
    more of these first.

    Respectfully,
    Chuck Hofer
    Retired E-Professor

    **************************************
    This message is from ENTREP which is sponsored by the Entrepreneurship Division of the Academy of Management.

    Please do not post messages with attached files. Commercial messages or spammed messages are not allowed on the list. The use of auto-responder "out-of-office" messages may also lead to your removal from the list.

    You can manage your subscription options, including joining or leaving the list here:
    http://aomlists.pace.edu/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=entrep&A=1

    If you have questions or need help, please contact Jeff Pollack (jeff_pollack@ncsu.edu) or Kevin Cox (kcox24@my.fau.edu).

    Ventures HO!



    **************************************
    This message is from ENTREP which is sponsored by the Entrepreneurship Division of the Academy of Management.

    Please do not post messages with attached files. Commercial messages or spammed messages are not allowed on the list. The use of auto-responder "out-of-office" messages may also lead to your removal from the list.

    You can manage your subscription options, including joining or leaving the list here:
    http://aomlists.pace.edu/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=entrep&A=1

    If you have questions or need help, please contact Jeff Pollack (jeff_pollack@ncsu.edu) or Kevin Cox (kcox24@my.fau.edu).

    Ventures HO!


  • 14.  Business Plan Exercises and Advice?

    Posted 02-12-2017 12:13
    Hi all,

    So then a follow-up to Scott's message... I do require all teams to practice a presentation via pitch deck 2-3 times during the semester. But that's while they write drafts of a business plan. I've always assumed that crafting a pitch deck comes easiest if a concise but mildly comprehensive text document is available.

    Do any of you require your students to make pitch decks without writing any business proposal .doc files? If so, what process do you use to ensure that a team will be able to defend against Q&A when they haven't written stuff down rigorously as a group?

    Regards, -chihmao

     

     

     

    Regards, -chihmao

    -------------------------
    Chihmao Hsieh
    Associate Professor of Entrepreneurship
    Yonsei University (UIC)
    

    website: www.chsieh.com
    tel: +82 032 749 3085 

     

     

     

     

    -----------------------Original message-----------------------
    From: "Scott Shane "<sas46@CASE.EDU>
    To: ENTREP@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG
    Sent date: 2017-02-13 00:37:14 GMT +0900 (Asia/Seoul)
    Title: Re: [ENTREP] Business Plan Exercises and Advice?

     

     

    Colleagues,

     

    I rarely reply to these listserv messages, but in this case I would like to offer a few observations.  People can do with these data points what they wish.

     

    In addition to my academic activities, I am an active angel investor.  I am making these observations as someone who is an LP in two micro VC funds, one accelerator fund, who has been a member of an angel group. 

     

    Another background "fact" is that among my students here at CWRU, I have 5 out of every class of 25 with "real" businesses, which I define as companies that either have  working prototype, have a term sheet from an investor, have raised some actual money from people other than themselves, revenues, or a legal entity.

     

    Of the +/- 350 efforts to raise money that I received in 2016, roughly 2 provided business plans, about 10 offered executive summaries of business plans, 10 were pitch emails by people who offered nothing else and about 325 sent "pitch decks." 

     

    Based on these numbers, it is my opinion that the ENTP Division of AOM is out of date with reality.  Business plans and business plan competitions are 20th century approaches to the topic.  The accelerators, angel groups, micro VCs etc... are working off of pitch decks.  So my first observation would be that class activities these days should be geared around pitch decks rather than business plans.

     

    My second observation is that there is an enormous gulf between university competitions like Rice Business Plan competition and real world competitions like that at South by Southwest.  In my opinion, training students for university competitions is a bit like elementary schools teaching to the test.  My students who go on to the non-student competitions point out that what was valuable from class is very different from what was valuable to them at the student competitions. 

     

    My third observation is that the business model canvas is useful for many things but its output is not something that you can use directly for funding a business.  With the exception of seeking admission into an accelerator (for which it would be fine), that output does need to be turned into something like a pitch deck to raise money or to communicate with other stakeholders.

     

    My fourth observation is that the world of fundraising today is much broader than Benson suggests.  Online accredited investor platforms like Seed Invest and Circle Up, the rise of angel groups, the rise of micro VC funds, the growth in the number of angels (all of which I have documented in a variety of writings) makes the world very different than that before 2000.  This will only change further with the advent of non-accredited investor crowdfunding, which has barely started in the US.   A founder in Cleveland, Ohio is not restricted the way he or she once was because traditional VC is concentrated in Silicon valley.   But that founder needs to have the right tools for raising money from others.

     

    My fifth observation is that Chuck is spot on about the difference between experienced investors and non-experienced investors on this topic.  The experienced investors look very differently at information than do others and that has a bearing on pedagogy.  A bunch of faculty judging a competition is nothing like true angels and VCs doing it.  The outcomes are likely to be very different.

     

    My sixth observation is that faculty members should think seriously about who in their classes they are teaching to.  The majority of the class will be learning about entrepreneurship, while a minority will be learning to do entrepreneurship.  As educators, I think it is fine to teach to either group, but it is very hard to teach to both simultaneously.  I am sure great teachers can probably pull off both, but not us mere mortals.  The materials and approach needed are  different.  Larger schools have an advantage here because they can offer separate courses to achieve the different types of learning.

     

    My finally observation echoes Johan's.  I think there are articles on entrepreneurship education in ETP.

     

    My apologies to all for the long email.  Every so often, these messages hit a nerve.

     

    Regards,

     

    Scott

     

    From: Entrepreneurship Division Listserv [mailto:ENTREP@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG] On Behalf Of Johan Wiklund
    Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2017 9:27 AM
    To: ENTREP@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG
    Subject: Re: [ENTREP] Business Plan Exercises and Advice?

     

    Benson, it is incorrect that ETP won't publish papers about entrepreneurship education. We are happy for quality submissions in any area relevant to entrepreneurship. 

     

    Johan

    Sent from the iPhone of 

    Professor Johan Wiklund, PhD

    The Al Berg Chair of Entrepreneurship

    Editor, Entrepreneurship Theory & Practice

    Whitman School of Management

    Syracuse University

    721 University Avenue

    Syracuse, NY 13244


    On Feb 12, 2017, at 07:10, Honig, Benson <bhonig@MCMASTER.CA> wrote:

    Not to upset everyone's collective apple carts, but while I've read lots of opinion, I see very little referencing of systematic evidence. Without researching how students learn best, and what they learn, under various conditions and with various models, it's all going to be very subjective, isn't it?

    Oh – by the way – one of our two leading journals (ETP) will not publish anything on entrepreneurship education.  Perhaps we can infer it doesn't matter much!

    Regards

    Benson

     

    Benson Honig Ph.D.

    Teresa Cascioli Chair in Entrepreneurial Leadership

    DeGroote School of Business, McMaster University

    Hamilton Ontario Canada L8S4M4

    Tel: 905-525-9140 ext. 23943

    Cell: 905-518-1716

     

     

     

    From: Entrepreneurship Division Listserv <ENTREP@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG> on behalf of Chihmao HSIEH <c.hsieh@YONSEI.AC.KR>
    Reply-To: ""Chihmao HSIEH"" <c.hsieh@YONSEI.AC.KR>
    Date: Saturday, February 11, 2017 at 9:16 PM
    To: "ENTREP@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG" <ENTREP@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG>
    Subject: Re: [ENTREP] Business Plan Exercises and Advice?

     

    Hi all,

     

    I've been lurking until now with this conversation, but let me add a brief .02.

     

    A b-school course is often not very much like real life from a teambuilding and operational standpoint.  For example, friends and former colleagues may know each other well enough to not need to even consider a business plan or a business model canvas.  We all know how important the quality of the team is, both for optimizing internal organization, as well as for selling the venture to investors.  Where the team presents itself as complementary, cohesive, and commital, formalizing business plan or canvas becomes less necessary.

     

    That said, in general, I see little reason (aside from time and deadline constraints) to not assign student teams to produce *both* business proposal and a business model (canvas).

     

    Specifically, I find that the students learn not only when they write a 12-15 page business proposal, but also when they're asked to slice it down to a 5-page executive summary and then a 200-word gala blurb (e.g. our course's gala/kickout has a program booklet with a 200-word blurb describing each team's venture).  They learn what are the crucial missions or objectives of the venture, as well as what part of the strategy deserves to remain flexible.  Many students always tell me that the slicing down process is just as much of a learning experience as writing the full-fledged document.  They tell me that when they boil their 12-15 "formalized" pages down to 200 words, they not only feel freedom/flexibility, they also feel confident.

     

    Confidence mixed with freedom/flexibility.  That's hard to buy with just proposal or canvas alone.   

     

    From an instructional standpoint, in my opinion, our job as entrepreneurship faculty is to give students taste.  That means they should know the value of--and efforts and mindset that go into--a business proposal and a business model canvas.  If you only ask for one, then ultimately your students have no taste for the other.

     

    Regards, -chihmao. 

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Regards, -chihmao

    -------------------------
    Chihmao Hsieh
    Associate Professor of Entrepreneurship
    Yonsei University (UIC)

    website: www.chsieh.com
    tel: +82 032 749 3085 

     

     

    -----------------------Original message-----------------------
    From: "Winkel, Doan "<dwinkel@ILSTU.EDU>
    To: ENTREP@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG
    Sent date: 2017-01-25 00:28:54 GMT +0900 (Asia/Seoul)
    Title: Re: [ENTREP] Business Plan Exercises and Advice?

     

     

    Hello -

     

    I have seen many replies about this, and this relates to an ongoing discussion in our field about business plan vs. business model and all that. I personally am not a business plan proponent as I think students get less value from that exercise, and their time can be better spent learning by doing instead of learning by planning. Not to discount plans - they are necessary sometimes in some situations. But from a learning perspective, try to focus on action.

     

    Business modeling is a "better" way to get students learning actively. But I have found over the years there are usually some issues with students (and faculty!) still not understanding the business model, how to use it, etc. One good friend explained it to me like this: giving students a business model to use is kind of like giving them all the parts of a car and expecting them to know how to build it.

     

    What I have come to find most engaging for my students (undergrad business students at a large state university in the sort-of-central US) is getting them focused on problems and customers, and working toward finding product-market fit. A resource I've been using both with my students and in my own personal ventures (with some fantastic results) is the FOCUS Framework (https://thefocusframework.com/). If you'd like, I can make an intro to the wizard behind the curtain - he loves working with educators to customize offering to fit your curriculum or co-curricular efforts.

     

    Doan

                   
    Doan Winkel
    Assistant Professor of Entrepreneurship
    Illinois State University
    (309) 438-2736
    TEDx Talk     Legacy Out Loud     Teaching Lean  Blog

    Twitter       Facebook        LinkedIn   

     


    From: Entrepreneurship Division Listserv <ENTREP@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG> on behalf of Pelly, Robert Duncan M <rpelly@CALSTATELA.EDU>
    Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 1:49:50 PM
    To: ENTREP@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG
    Subject: Business Plan Exercises and Advice?

     

    Dear Colleagues,

     

    I am developing curriculum for a new venture management course and I was wondering if anyone would be willing to share some of their experiences with teaching the development and writing of business plans. 

     

    What kinds of exercises do you use?  What kind of rubric do you use for grading a business plan?

     

    Any feedback or advice would be greatly appreciated.

     

    Best Regards,

     

    R. Duncan M. Pelly

    Assistant Professor of Management

    California State University, Los Angeles

    ************************************** This message is from ENTREP which is sponsored by the Entrepreneurship Division of the Academy of Management. Please do not post messages with attached files. Commercial messages or spammed messages are not allowed on the list. The use of auto-responder "out-of-office" messages may also lead to your removal from the list. You can manage your subscription options, including joining or leaving the list here: http://aomlists.pace.edu/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=entrep&A=1 If you have questions or need help, please contact Jeff Pollack (jeff_pollack@ncsu.edu) or Kevin Cox (kcox24@my.fau.edu). Ventures HO!

    ************************************** This message is from ENTREP which is sponsored by the Entrepreneurship Division of the Academy of Management. Please do not post messages with attached files. Commercial messages or spammed messages are not allowed on the list. The use of auto-responder "out-of-office" messages may also lead to your removal from the list. You can manage your subscription options, including joining or leaving the list here: http://aomlists.pace.edu/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=entrep&A=1 If you have questions or need help, please contact Jeff Pollack (jeff_pollack@ncsu.edu) or Kevin Cox (kcox24@my.fau.edu). Ventures HO!

     

    ************************************** This message is from ENTREP which is sponsored by the Entrepreneurship Division of the Academy of Management. Please do not post messages with attached files. Commercial messages or spammed messages are not allowed on the list. The use of auto-responder "out-of-office" messages may also lead to your removal from the list. You can manage your subscription options, including joining or leaving the list here: http://aomlists.pace.edu/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=entrep&A=1 If you have questions or need help, please contact Jeff Pollack (jeff_pollack@ncsu.edu) or Kevin Cox (kcox24@my.fau.edu). Ventures HO!

    ************************************** This message is from ENTREP which is sponsored by the Entrepreneurship Division of the Academy of Management. Please do not post messages with attached files. Commercial messages or spammed messages are not allowed on the list. The use of auto-responder "out-of-office" messages may also lead to your removal from the list. You can manage your subscription options, including joining or leaving the list here: http://aomlists.pace.edu/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=entrep&A=1 If you have questions or need help, please contact Jeff Pollack (jeff_pollack@ncsu.edu) or Kevin Cox (kcox24@my.fau.edu). Ventures HO!

    ************************************** This message is from ENTREP which is sponsored by the Entrepreneurship Division of the Academy of Management. Please do not post messages with attached files. Commercial messages or spammed messages are not allowed on the list. The use of auto-responder "out-of-office" messages may also lead to your removal from the list. You can manage your subscription options, including joining or leaving the list here: http://aomlists.pace.edu/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=entrep&A=1 If you have questions or need help, please contact Jeff Pollack (jeff_pollack@ncsu.edu) or Kevin Cox (kcox24@my.fau.edu). Ventures HO!

    ************************************** This message is from ENTREP which is sponsored by the Entrepreneurship Division of the Academy of Management. Please do not post messages with attached files. Commercial messages or spammed messages are not allowed on the list. The use of auto-responder "out-of-office" messages may also lead to your removal from the list. You can manage your subscription options, including joining or leaving the list here: http://aomlists.pace.edu/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=entrep&A=1 If you have questions or need help, please contact Jeff Pollack (jeff_pollack@ncsu.edu) or Kevin Cox (kcox24@my.fau.edu). Ventures HO!
    ************************************** This message is from ENTREP which is sponsored by the Entrepreneurship Division of the Academy of Management. Please do not post messages with attached files. Commercial messages or spammed messages are not allowed on the list. The use of auto-responder "out-of-office" messages may also lead to your removal from the list. You can manage your subscription options, including joining or leaving the list here: http://aomlists.pace.edu/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=entrep&A=1 If you have questions or need help, please contact Jeff Pollack (jeff_pollack@ncsu.edu) or Kevin Cox (kcox24@my.fau.edu). Ventures HO!