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JBV as a top journal

  • 1.  JBV as a top journal

    Posted 03-09-2007 11:26

    Hi all,

    I am finding it somewhat tedious to be sending this email given the recent impact factors, but...I need to develop a list of schools that consider JBV to be an "A" or "Premier" on their list of journal publications.  I am sure we are all aware of the issues with "lists" and I agree, but that is outside the scope of my influence.  Therefore, if your school considers JBV to be on your top list for publications I would very much appreciate it if you could please send me a quick email.  I will compile the list and will be glad to send it to anyone else who would also like a copy.

     

    Thanks

    Dawn

     

    Dawn R. DeTienne

    Assistant Professor

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    (970) 491-6446

    dawn.detienne@business.colostate.edu

     

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  • 2.  JBV as a top journal

    Posted 03-09-2007 16:15

    Hello:

     

    Hear we go with this tired question of A,B,C,D, and F journals. Let the games begin.

     

    Peace,GM

     

     

     


    From: Entrepreneurship Division Listserv [mailto:ENTREP@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU] On Behalf Of DeTienne,Dawn
    Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 10:26 AM
    To: ENTREP@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU
    Subject: [ENTREP] JBV as a top journal

     

    Hi all,

    I am finding it somewhat tedious to be sending this email given the recent impact factors, but...I need to develop a list of schools that consider JBV to be an "A" or "Premier" on their list of journal publications.  I am sure we are all aware of the issues with "lists" and I agree, but that is outside the scope of my influence.  Therefore, if your school considers JBV to be on your top list for publications I would very much appreciate it if you could please send me a quick email.  I will compile the list and will be glad to send it to anyone else who would also like a copy.

     

    Thanks

    Dawn

     

    Dawn R. DeTienne

    Assistant Professor

    <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:placetype w:st="on">College</st1:placetype> of <st1:placename w:st="on">Business</st1:placename></st1:place>

    <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:placename w:st="on">Colorado</st1:placename> <st1:placetype w:st="on">State</st1:placetype> <st1:placetype w:st="on">University</st1:placetype></st1:place>

    FT <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:city w:st="on">Collins</st1:city>, <st1:state w:st="on">CO</st1:state>  <st1:postalcode w:st="on">80523</st1:postalcode></st1:place>

    (970) 491-6446

    dawn.detienne@business.colostate.edu

     

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  • 3.  JBV as a top journal

    Posted 03-09-2007 16:51

    Hi Dawn.  At Syracuse we count JBV as an 'A'.

     

    Michael H. Morris, Ph.D.
    Chris J. Witting Chair and Professor
    Chairman, Department of Entrepreneurship and
      Emerging Enterprises
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    Ph:  315 443-3164
    Fax: 315 443-2654


    From: Entrepreneurship Division Listserv [mailto:ENTREP@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU] On Behalf Of DeTienne,Dawn
    Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 11:26 AM
    To: ENTREP@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU
    Subject: [ENTREP] JBV as a top journal

     

    Hi all,

    I am finding it somewhat tedious to be sending this email given the recent impact factors, but...I need to develop a list of schools that consider JBV to be an "A" or "Premier" on their list of journal publications.  I am sure we are all aware of the issues with "lists" and I agree, but that is outside the scope of my influence.  Therefore, if your school considers JBV to be on your top list for publications I would very much appreciate it if you could please send me a quick email.  I will compile the list and will be glad to send it to anyone else who would also like a copy.

     

    Thanks

    Dawn

     

    Dawn R. DeTienne

    Assistant Professor

    <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:placetype w:st="on">College</st1:placetype> of <st1:placename w:st="on">Business</st1:placename></st1:place>

    <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:placename w:st="on">Colorado</st1:placename> <st1:placetype w:st="on">State</st1:placetype> <st1:placetype w:st="on">University</st1:placetype></st1:place>

    FT <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:city w:st="on">Collins</st1:city>, <st1:state w:st="on">CO</st1:state>  <st1:postalcode w:st="on">80523</st1:postalcode></st1:place>

    (970) 491-6446

    dawn.detienne@business.colostate.edu

     

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  • 4.  JBV as a top journal

    Posted 03-10-2007 16:38

    Dawn:

     

    I don't mean to sound demeaning, but why even waste your time and effort compiling this "list."  Are you trying to use it to support/defend your bid for tenure?  Not too long ago, this same discussion about A, B, C, D level journals bounced over the message board.  Just look at the historical messages.  Personally, I think it is a joke.  Developing, validating and contributing knowledge to our field is what is important; and not everyone can publish in AMJ, AMR, ETP, JBV, etc. Just because I publish in a "C" level journal does that my work is any less important or ground-breaking than someone who publishes in JBV?  I will get off my soapbox, I am sure you get my meaning. 

     

    My suggestion, don't waste your time.  Focus on your research and contribution to our field.

     

    Jeff

     

     

    ______________________________________

     

    Dr. Jeff Lowenthal

    Assistant Professor, Entrepreneurship & Management Studies

    Sam Walton Free Enterprise Fellow

    Director, NSU-CBT Economic Development Initiative

     

    Northeastern <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:placetype w:st="on">State</st1:placetype> <st1:placetype w:st="on">University</st1:placetype></st1:place>

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    lowentha@nsuok.edu

    918-456-5511   x2922

    918-458-2337   Fax

     

     


    From: Entrepreneurship Division Listserv [mailto:ENTREP@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU] On Behalf Of DeTienne,Dawn
    Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 10:26 AM
    To: ENTREP@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU
    Subject: [ENTREP] JBV as a top journal

     

    Hi all,

    I am finding it somewhat tedious to be sending this email given the recent impact factors, but...I need to develop a list of schools that consider JBV to be an "A" or "Premier" on their list of journal publications.  I am sure we are all aware of the issues with "lists" and I agree, but that is outside the scope of my influence.  Therefore, if your school considers JBV to be on your top list for publications I would very much appreciate it if you could please send me a quick email.  I will compile the list and will be glad to send it to anyone else who would also like a copy.

     

    Thanks

    Dawn

     

    Dawn R. DeTienne

    Assistant Professor

    <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:placetype w:st="on">College</st1:placetype> of <st1:placename w:st="on">Business</st1:placename></st1:place>

    <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:placename w:st="on">Colorado</st1:placename> <st1:placetype w:st="on">State</st1:placetype> <st1:placetype w:st="on">University</st1:placetype></st1:place>

    FT <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:city w:st="on">Collins</st1:city>, <st1:state w:st="on">CO</st1:state>  <st1:postalcode w:st="on">80523</st1:postalcode></st1:place>

    (970) 491-6446

    dawn.detienne@business.colostate.edu

     

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  • 5.  JBV as a top journal

    Posted 03-12-2007 12:46
    This is actually an important issue, and should not be sidelined. Tenure at many schools is tied to publishing in 'A' journals.  We want entrepreneurship faculty to get tenure. Unfortunately, our colleagues in other disciplines have tended to view entrepreneurship journals as second tier at best. As such, it is vital that we get our institutions, and especially colleagues in the business disciplines, to recognize the 'A' journals in entrepreneurship. Otherwise, entrepreneurship faculty will only get tenure if they publish in the 'A' journals of other disciplines.  A number of research schools have rated JBV as an 'A', and it is important that all of us push for at least one 'A' in entrepreneurship, be it JBV or something else.


    From: Entrepreneurship Division Listserv on behalf of Jeff Lowenthal
    Sent: Sat 3/10/2007 4:37 PM
    To: ENTREP@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU
    Subject: Re: [ENTREP] JBV as a top journal

    Dawn:

     

    I don't mean to sound demeaning, but why even waste your time and effort compiling this "list."  Are you trying to use it to support/defend your bid for tenure?  Not too long ago, this same discussion about A, B, C, D level journals bounced over the message board.  Just look at the historical messages.  Personally, I think it is a joke.  Developing, validating and contributing knowledge to our field is what is important; and not everyone can publish in AMJ, AMR, ETP, JBV, etc. Just because I publish in a "C" level journal does that my work is any less important or ground-breaking than someone who publishes in JBV?  I will get off my soapbox, I am sure you get my meaning. 

     

    My suggestion, don't waste your time.  Focus on your research and contribution to our field.

     

    Jeff

     

     

    ______________________________________

     

    Dr. Jeff Lowenthal

    Assistant Professor, Entrepreneurship & Management Studies

    Sam Walton Free Enterprise Fellow

    Director, NSU-CBT Economic Development Initiative

     

    Northeastern State University

    College of Business and Technology

     

    700 N. Grand Ave., BT300-B

    Tahlequah, Oklahoma  74464

     

    lowentha@nsuok.edu

    918-456-5511   x2922

    918-458-2337   Fax

     

     


    From: Entrepreneurship Division Listserv [mailto:ENTREP@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU] On Behalf Of DeTienne,Dawn
    Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 10:26 AM
    To: ENTREP@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU
    Subject: [ENTREP] JBV as a top journal

     

    Hi all,

    I am finding it somewhat tedious to be sending this email given the recent impact factors, but...I need to develop a list of schools that consider JBV to be an "A" or "Premier" on their list of journal publications.  I am sure we are all aware of the issues with "lists" and I agree, but that is outside the scope of my influence.  Therefore, if your school considers JBV to be on your top list for publications I would very much appreciate it if you could please send me a quick email.  I will compile the list and will be glad to send it to anyone else who would also like a copy.

     

    Thanks

    Dawn

     

    Dawn R. DeTienne

    Assistant Professor

    College of Business

    Colorado State University

    FT Collins, CO  80523

    (970) 491-6446

    dawn.detienne@business.colostate.edu

     

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  • 6.  JBV as a top journal

    Posted 03-12-2007 13:21
    Jeff,
    In part I agree.  However, our field suffers from a lack of legitimacy, for two reasons in my view.
    1.  With 60+ e-ship journals, and only 2 at best considered A- or A journals, the sheer volume of writing masks any particular contribution.  I'm certain you are writing cool stuff, but it's impossible for me to keep up with more than five or six journals at a time. From my perspective the result is that the vast majority of contributions are completely lost.
    2.  Since we have carefully avoided making any strict boundary limitations to our field (i.e. we include everything from nascent e-ship to small business growth to technology transfer to corporate e-ship and more), we are left with far too many theoretical traditions to draw on, effectively leaving us with no strictly entreprenurial foundations for theory-building, yet dozens and dozens of journals open to all those "contributions."  (Admittedly my theoretical ecclecticism has added to this problem). The unfortunate result is that our field has been virtually co-opted by strategy and OMT, and less so by economics. 
     
    Yet, we struggle on...!
    {:=>)

    --
    Benyamin B. Lichtenstein
    Asst.Prof. of Management and Entrepreneurship
    College of Mgmt., U-Mass Boston, MA 02125
    617-923-3092 = home office
    617-287-7887 = University office
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  • 7.  JBV as a top journal

    Posted 03-12-2007 22:47
    Hi All;

    And do not forget us non-tenured lackeys, sucking the lifeblood out of the
    discipline.

    Since there are no tenure compatible journals for e-ship, then the faculty
    at places such as Cornell are non-tenure track. Teaching 4 courses per
    semester, I don't have time to research anything. I haven't been in the
    library in 3 months. Sorry, got to get back to grading papers, hope to be
    done by 2 AM.

    If the academy could come up with a way for us non-tenured to move
    forward, my wife would appreciate it.

    --
    John Callister
    Director of the Harvey Kinzelberg Entrepreneurship in Engineering Program
    Cornell University
    College of Engineering
    M&AE/OR&IE Departments
    291 Grumman Hall
    Ithaca, New York 14853-7501

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  • 8.  JBV as a top journal

    Posted 03-13-2007 00:57
    As a tenure track faculty, this issue is of extreme interest to me. As a former entrepreneur, I must be honest and say that I still remain to be convinced that "A" tier journals contribute much more than "B" or even some "C" tier. In fact, some papers that I have seen would suggest evidence to the contrary.
     
    Does anyone know if there is a paper specific (as opposed to journal specific) measure that can be used to evaluate the quality of our contributions? With our field still being developed, broader contributions may be very appropriate, something that I find is not as easily done in "A" tier journals. This would be advanced if we were to implement paper specific guidelines.
     
    Cheers
    Bill
     
     
     
    Dr. Želimir William Todorovic
    Academic Reviewer, Administrative Sciences Association of Canada
    Director, Entrepreneurship Certificate Program
    Richard T. Doermer School of Business and Management
    Indiana - Purdue University, Fort Wayne
    2101 E. Coliseum Blvd.
    Fort Wayne, Indiana, 46805-1499
    Web:http://users.ipfw.edu/todorovz/
    e-mail: todorovz@ipfw.edu
    (260) 481 6940
     
    ----- Original Message -----
    Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 12:45 PM
    Subject: Re: [ENTREP] JBV as a top journal

    This is actually an important issue, and should not be sidelined. Tenure at many schools is tied to publishing in 'A' journals.  We want entrepreneurship faculty to get tenure. Unfortunately, our colleagues in other disciplines have tended to view entrepreneurship journals as second tier at best. As such, it is vital that we get our institutions, and especially colleagues in the business disciplines, to recognize the 'A' journals in entrepreneurship. Otherwise, entrepreneurship faculty will only get tenure if they publish in the 'A' journals of other disciplines.  A number of research schools have rated JBV as an 'A', and it is important that all of us push for at least one 'A' in entrepreneurship, be it JBV or something else.


    From: Entrepreneurship Division Listserv on behalf of Jeff Lowenthal
    Sent: Sat 3/10/2007 4:37 PM
    To: ENTREP@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU
    Subject: Re: [ENTREP] JBV as a top journal

    Dawn:

     

    I don’t mean to sound demeaning, but why even waste your time and effort compiling this “list.”  Are you trying to use it to support/defend your bid for tenure?  Not too long ago, this same discussion about A, B, C, D level journals bounced over the message board.  Just look at the historical messages.  Personally, I think it is a joke.  Developing, validating and contributing knowledge to our field is what is important; and not everyone can publish in AMJ, AMR, ETP, JBV, etc. Just because I publish in a “C” level journal does that my work is any less important or ground-breaking than someone who publishes in JBV?  I will get off my soapbox, I am sure you get my meaning. 

     

    My suggestion, don’t waste your time.  Focus on your research and contribution to our field.

     

    Jeff

     

     

    ______________________________________

     

    Dr. Jeff Lowenthal

    Assistant Professor, Entrepreneurship & Management Studies

    Sam Walton Free Enterprise Fellow

    Director, NSU-CBT Economic Development Initiative

     

    Northeastern State University

    College of Business and Technology

     

    700 N. Grand Ave., BT300-B

    Tahlequah, Oklahoma  74464

     

    lowentha@nsuok.edu

    918-456-5511   x2922

    918-458-2337   Fax

     

     


    From: Entrepreneurship Division Listserv [mailto:ENTREP@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU] On Behalf Of DeTienne,Dawn
    Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 10:26 AM
    To: ENTREP@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU
    Subject: [ENTREP] JBV as a top journal

     

    Hi all,

    I am finding it somewhat tedious to be sending this email given the recent impact factors, but…I need to develop a list of schools that consider JBV to be an “A” or “Premier” on their list of journal publications.  I am sure we are all aware of the issues with “lists” and I agree, but that is outside the scope of my influence.  Therefore, if your school considers JBV to be on your top list for publications I would very much appreciate it if you could please send me a quick email.  I will compile the list and will be glad to send it to anyone else who would also like a copy.

     

    Thanks

    Dawn

     

    Dawn R. DeTienne

    Assistant Professor

    College of Business

    Colorado State University

    FT Collins, CO  80523

    (970) 491-6446

    dawn.detienne@business.colostate.edu

     

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  • 9.  JBV as a top journal

    Posted 03-13-2007 05:55

    Benyamin makes a sound point about lack of coherence, in terms of topic and theoretical perspective which underlies the legitimation problems of the field.

     

    For more on my own views on this in the entrepreneurship case see

     

    R T Harrison and C M Leitch (1996) Discipline emergence in management: accumulative fragmentalism or paradigmatic science? Entrepreneurship, Innovation and Change 5 (2), 65-83

     

    And on Dawn's original question (and acknowledging all the caveats about lists and their robustness) in the UK JBV and ETP are 'A' rated (4* in local parlance, representing top internationally leading outlets) in the journals ranking recently published by the Association of Business Schools – www.the-abs.org.uk  )

     

     

    Richard T Harrison

    Professor of Management

     

    Head of School

    <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:placetype w:st="on">School</st1:placetype> of <st1:placename w:st="on">Management</st1:placename></st1:place> and Economics

    Queen's University <st1:city w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Belfast</st1:place></st1:city>

    <st1:street w:st="on"><st1:address w:st="on">25 University Square</st1:address></st1:street>

    <st1:city w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Belfast</st1:place></st1:city> BT7 1NN

    <st1:country-region w:st="on">Northern Ireland</st1:country-region>, <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">UK</st1:place></st1:country-region>

     

    T: +44 (0) 28 9097 3621/5025

    F: +44 (0) 28 9033 5156

    E: <st1:personname w:st="on">r.harrison@qub.ac.uk</st1:personname>

    www.qub.ac.uk/mgt

     


    From: Entrepreneurship Division Listserv [mailto:ENTREP@aomlists.pace.edu] On Behalf Of Benyamin Lichtenstein
    Sent: 12 March 2007 17:21
    To: ENTREP@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU
    Subject: Re: [ENTREP] JBV as a top journal

     

    Jeff,

    In part I agree.  However, our field suffers from a lack of legitimacy, for two reasons in my view.

    1.  With 60+ e-ship journals, and only 2 at best considered A- or A journals, the sheer volume of writing masks any particular contribution.  I'm certain you are writing cool stuff, but it's impossible for me to keep up with more than five or six journals at a time. From my perspective the result is that the vast majority of contributions are completely lost.

    2.  Since we have carefully avoided making any strict boundary limitations to our field (i.e. we include everything from nascent e-ship to small business growth to technology transfer to corporate e-ship and more), we are left with far too many theoretical traditions to draw on, effectively leaving us with no strictly entreprenurial foundations for theory-building, yet dozens and dozens of journals open to all those "contributions."  (Admittedly my theoretical ecclecticism has added to this problem). The unfortunate result is that our field has been virtually co-opted by strategy and OMT, and less so by economics. 

     

    Yet, we struggle on...!

    {:=>)


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  • 10.  JBV as a top journal

    Posted 03-13-2007 15:14
    Hiya all, no surprises I also agree with Jeff.  The important thing is contribution.  if one gets too tied up in chasing someone's perception of "a" then there is a possibility that contributions to the field will be lost.
     
    As some readers of this list will know, I believe entrepreneurship is better described as a metaphor that stands in place of innovation creativity proactivity risk/uncertainty.  This can place my contributions outside business.  Oh alright, not everyone agrees with this but that's the thing will a construct its open for interpretation.  Maybe you publish in an "a" journal for tourism, or popular culture, or language, or business.   Why do we need an "a" journal for entrepreneurship. And if we did my guess is that it would be a north american quantitative journal  that would only serve to increase the rise of "pax americana".  Hey see I too have a soap box.
     
    Enjoy the week people.
     
    Kind Regards
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Entrepreneurship Division Listserv [mailto:ENTREP@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU] On Behalf Of Michael H Morris
    Sent: Tuesday, 13 March 2007 5:46 a.m.
    To: ENTREP@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU
    Subject: Re: [ENTREP] JBV as a top journal

    This is actually an important issue, and should not be sidelined. Tenure at many schools is tied to publishing in 'A' journals.  We want entrepreneurship faculty to get tenure. Unfortunately, our colleagues in other disciplines have tended to view entrepreneurship journals as second tier at best. As such, it is vital that we get our institutions, and especially colleagues in the business disciplines, to recognize the 'A' journals in entrepreneurship. Otherwise, entrepreneurship faculty will only get tenure if they publish in the 'A' journals of other disciplines.  A number of research schools have rated JBV as an 'A', and it is important that all of us push for at least one 'A' in entrepreneurship, be it JBV or something else.


    From: Entrepreneurship Division Listserv on behalf of Jeff Lowenthal
    Sent: Sat 3/10/2007 4:37 PM
    To: ENTREP@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU
    Subject: Re: [ENTREP] JBV as a top journal

    Dawn:

     

    I don't mean to sound demeaning, but why even waste your time and effort compiling this "list."  Are you trying to use it to support/defend your bid for tenure?  Not too long ago, this same discussion about A, B, C, D level journals bounced over the message board.  Just look at the historical messages.  Personally, I think it is a joke.  Developing, validating and contributing knowledge to our field is what is important; and not everyone can publish in AMJ, AMR, ETP, JBV, etc. Just because I publish in a "C" level journal does that my work is any less important or ground-breaking than someone who publishes in JBV?  I will get off my soapbox, I am sure you get my meaning. 

     

    My suggestion, don't waste your time.  Focus on your research and contribution to our field.

     

    Jeff

     

     

    ______________________________________

     

    Dr. Jeff Lowenthal

    Assistant Professor, Entrepreneurship & Management Studies

    Sam Walton Free Enterprise Fellow

    Director, NSU-CBT Economic Development Initiative

     

    Northeastern State University

    College of Business and Technology

     

    700 N. Grand Ave., BT300-B

    Tahlequah, Oklahoma  74464

     

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    From: Entrepreneurship Division Listserv [mailto:ENTREP@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU] On Behalf Of DeTienne,Dawn
    Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 10:26 AM
    To: ENTREP@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU
    Subject: [ENTREP] JBV as a top journal

     

    Hi all,

    I am finding it somewhat tedious to be sending this email given the recent impact factors, but...I need to develop a list of schools that consider JBV to be an "A" or "Premier" on their list of journal publications.  I am sure we are all aware of the issues with "lists" and I agree, but that is outside the scope of my influence.  Therefore, if your school considers JBV to be on your top list for publications I would very much appreciate it if you could please send me a quick email.  I will compile the list and will be glad to send it to anyone else who would also like a copy.

     

    Thanks

    Dawn

     

    Dawn R. DeTienne

    Assistant Professor

    College of Business

    Colorado State University

    FT Collins, CO  80523

    (970) 491-6446

    dawn.detienne@business.colostate.edu

     

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  • 11.  JBV as a top journal

    Posted 03-13-2007 18:10
    One measure, Bill, is to use a citation count for each article you
    publish. You can hand out $500 bills to all your friends that cite your
    work each year at the Academy! Anne Harzing has a great program that
    does all sorts of nice computations and analyses with Google Scholar
    called "publish or perish" at http://www.harzing.com/. She also has one
    of the finest collections of journal quality and rankings. A hint,
    though, is that sometimes google scholar misses citations - be sure to
    put in your first name fully spelled out AND by initial only, in order
    to catch all of your cited work (for example, some older JBV's are only
    indexed by your initial, and don't come back on searches with your first
    name spelled out).

    As to our John and our other colleagues that are in a frenetic state
    due to heavy teaching loads, and can't find time to publish - all our
    combined sympathy won't change the situation. However, frequently you
    can trade-off other factors, such as climate, status, and salary, for
    research time. Given the apparent shortage of entrepreneurship scholars
    - I would expect such opportunities to only increase. If you put some
    time in at podunk U when it's minus 40 in May for a few years, you will
    have so few distractions (and so little money to spend on them anyway)
    that your research productivity will undoubtedly skyrocket! So, John,
    you may miss Moosewood, but you can always buy a few of their cookbooks!

    Happy research,

    Benson


    Benson Honig Ph.D.
    Betty and Peter Sims Professor of Entrepreneurship,
    Director, NeXt
    Wilfrid Laurier School of Business and Economics
    Waterloo Ontario Canada N2L3C5
    Tel: 519-884-0710 ext.2909
    fax: 519-884-0201
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  • 12.  JBV as a top journal

    Posted 03-13-2007 18:21
    Dear All, Ann Wil-Harzing, U of Melbourne< has developed sever indices that are auuthor s;peccific for evaluating research. You may find them on: www.harzing.com/pop.htm under "publish or perish."

    Kim Boal


    -----Original Message-----
    From: Entrepreneurship Division Listserv on behalf of Bill Todorovic, IPFW
    Sent: Mon 3/12/2007 11:57 PM
    To: ENTREP@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU
    Subject: Re: [ENTREP] JBV as a top journal

    As a tenure track faculty, this issue is of extreme interest to me. As a former entrepreneur, I must be honest and say that I still remain to be convinced that "A" tier journals contribute much more than "B" or even some "C" tier. In fact, some papers that I have seen would suggest evidence to the contrary.

    Does anyone know if there is a paper specific (as opposed to journal specific) measure that can be used to evaluate the quality of our contributions? With our field still being developed, broader contributions may be very appropriate, something that I find is not as easily done in "A" tier journals. This would be advanced if we were to implement paper specific guidelines.

    Cheers
    Bill



    Dr. Zelimir William Todorovic
    Academic Reviewer, Administrative Sciences Association of Canada

    Director, Entrepreneurship Certificate Program
    Richard T. Doermer School of Business and Management
    Indiana - Purdue University, Fort Wayne
    2101 E. Coliseum Blvd.
    Fort Wayne, Indiana, 46805-1499
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    ----- Original Message -----
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    To: ENTREP@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU
    Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 12:45 PM
    Subject: Re: [ENTREP] JBV as a top journal


    This is actually an important issue, and should not be sidelined. Tenure at many schools is tied to publishing in 'A' journals. We want entrepreneurship faculty to get tenure. Unfortunately, our colleagues in other disciplines have tended to view entrepreneurship journals as second tier at best. As such, it is vital that we get our institutions, and especially colleagues in the business disciplines, to recognize the 'A' journals in entrepreneurship. Otherwise, entrepreneurship faculty will only get tenure if they publish in the 'A' journals of other disciplines. A number of research schools have rated JBV as an 'A', and it is important that all of us push for at least one 'A' in entrepreneurship, be it JBV or something else.


    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    From: Entrepreneurship Division Listserv on behalf of Jeff Lowenthal
    Sent: Sat 3/10/2007 4:37 PM
    To: ENTREP@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU
    Subject: Re: [ENTREP] JBV as a top journal


    Dawn:



    I don't mean to sound demeaning, but why even waste your time and effort compiling this "list." Are you trying to use it to support/defend your bid for tenure? Not too long ago, this same discussion about A, B, C, D level journals bounced over the message board. Just look at the historical messages. Personally, I think it is a joke. Developing, validating and contributing knowledge to our field is what is important; and not everyone can publish in AMJ, AMR, ETP, JBV, etc. Just because I publish in a "C" level journal does that my work is any less important or ground-breaking than someone who publishes in JBV? I will get off my soapbox, I am sure you get my meaning.



    My suggestion, don't waste your time. Focus on your research and contribution to our field.



    Jeff





    ______________________________________



    Dr. Jeff Lowenthal

    Assistant Professor, Entrepreneurship & Management Studies

    Sam Walton Free Enterprise Fellow

    Director, NSU-CBT Economic Development Initiative



    Northeastern State University

    College of Business and Technology



    700 N. Grand Ave., BT300-B

    Tahlequah, Oklahoma 74464



    lowentha@nsuok.edu

    918-456-5511 x2922

    918-458-2337 Fax






    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    From: Entrepreneurship Division Listserv [mailto:ENTREP@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU] On Behalf Of DeTienne,Dawn
    Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 10:26 AM
    To: ENTREP@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU
    Subject: [ENTREP] JBV as a top journal



    Hi all,

    I am finding it somewhat tedious to be sending this email given the recent impact factors, but.I need to develop a list of schools that consider JBV to be an "A" or "Premier" on their list of journal publications. I am sure we are all aware of the issues with "lists" and I agree, but that is outside the scope of my influence. Therefore, if your school considers JBV to be on your top list for publications I would very much appreciate it if you could please send me a quick email. I will compile the list and will be glad to send it to anyone else who would also like a copy.



    Thanks

    Dawn



    Dawn R. DeTienne

    Assistant Professor

    College of Business

    Colorado State University

    FT Collins, CO 80523

    (970) 491-6446

    dawn.detienne@business.colostate.edu



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  • 13.  JBV as a top journal

    Posted 03-13-2007 19:15
    Thanks, Benson, for the useful post - clarifies doubts I had about Google
    Scholar - and thanks to Richard for the UK position on JBV and ETP. Yes,
    Anne-Wil Harzing's is the best compilation we have. Can anyone advise if
    there is a citation analysis that excludes 'self references'?

    Sanjay Bhowmick
    The University of Auckland
    New Zealand

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  • 14.  JBV as a top journal

    Posted 03-14-2007 03:02
    Those who leave academia and rise to administrative positions at such a level that they are able to pronounce on tenure and professorial promotions rarely have sufficient knowledge or ability to produce, support, or use a local "university" level journal ranking system. Every one of this kind of people I've seen spouts whatever opinions of rankings stem from their colonial heriatage, their national universities that endevour to publish the opinion of their professorial staff as an objective list, or whatever their government imposes upon them (e.g., South Africa), usually resulting from staff work by associate deans fleeing from the the demands of the classroom and publish-or-perish.

    If you work for a university that is foolish enough to think that journal rankings are anything other than unscientific opinion polls, learn the rules, play the game, take a shot at the A level journals. Sometimes trying counts. If your work is of high enough quality to warrant publication at that level, success then becomes the right combination of editors and reviewers, with success a random event until you become world renowned.

    Rgds,
    Romie Littrell

    Michael H Morris <mhmorris@SYR.EDU> wrote:
    This is actually an important issue, and should not be sidelined. Tenure at many schools is tied to publishing in 'A' journals.  We want entrepreneurship faculty to get tenure. Unfortunately, our colleagues in other disciplines have tended to view entrepreneurship journals as second tier at best. As such, it is vital that we get our institutions, and especially colleagues in the business disciplines, to recognize the 'A' journals in entrepreneurship. Otherwise, entrepreneurship faculty will only get tenure if they publish in the 'A' journals of other disciplines.  A number of research schools have rated JBV as an 'A', and it is important that all of us push for at least one 'A' in entrepreneurship, be it JBV or something else.


    From: Entrepreneurship Division Listserv on behalf of Jeff Lowenthal
    Sent: Sat 3/10/2007 4:37 PM
    To: ENTREP@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU
    Subject: Re: [ENTREP] JBV as a top journal

    Dawn:
     
    I don’t mean to sound demeaning, but why even waste your time and effort compiling this “list.”  Are you trying to use it to support/defend your bid for tenure?  Not too long ago, this same discussion about A, B, C, D level journals bounced over the message board.  Just look at the historical messages.  Personally, I think it is a joke.  Developing, validating and contributing knowledge to our field is what is important; and not everyone can publish in AMJ, AMR, ETP, JBV, etc. Just because I publish in a “C” level journal does that my work is any less important or ground-breaking than someone who publishes in JBV?  I will get off my soapbox, I am sure you get my meaning. 
     
    My suggestion, don’t waste your time.  Focus on your research and contribution to our field.
     
    Jeff
     
     
    ______________________________________
     
    Dr. Jeff Lowenthal
    Assistant Professor, Entrepreneurship & Management Studies
    Sam Walton Free Enterprise Fellow
    Director, NSU-CBT Economic Development Initiative
     
    Northeastern State University
    College of Business and Technology
     
    700 N. Grand Ave., BT300-B
    Tahlequah, Oklahoma  74464
     
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    From: Entrepreneurship Division Listserv [mailto:ENTREP@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU] On Behalf Of DeTienne,Dawn
    Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 10:26 AM
    To: ENTREP@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU
    Subject: [ENTREP] JBV as a top journal
     
    Hi all,
    I am finding it somewhat tedious to be sending this email given the recent impact factors, but…I need to develop a list of schools that consider JBV to be an “A” or “Premier” on their list of journal publications.  I am sure we are all aware of the issues with “lists” and I agree, but that is outside the scope of my influence.  Therefore, if your school considers JBV to be on your top list for publications I would very much appreciate it if you could please send me a quick email.  I will compile the list and will be glad to send it to anyone else who would also like a copy.
     
    Thanks
    Dawn
     
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    Assistant Professor
    College of Business
    Colorado State University
    FT Collins, CO  80523
    (970) 491-6446
     
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  • 15.  JBV as a top journal

    Posted 03-14-2007 03:09
    Supporting Kim's recommendation, Anne-Wil has a compilation of journal ranking lists that can be used to generate a small modicum of concensus at http://www.harzing.com

    The lists themselves are heavily biased to English-language journals (almost exclusivily), with, for example, nothing on Africa-related journals.

    Rgds,
    Romie Littrell

    "Boal, Kim" <kim.boal@TTU.EDU> wrote:
    Dear All, Ann Wil-Harzing, U of Melbourne< has developed sever indices that are auuthor s;peccific for evaluating research. You may find them on: www.harzing.com/pop.htm under "publish or perish."

    Kim Boal


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    To: ENTREP@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU
    Subject: Re: [ENTREP] JBV as a top journal

    As a tenure track faculty, this issue is of extreme interest to me. As a former entrepreneur, I must be honest and say that I still remain to be convinced that "A" tier journals contribute much more than "B" or even some "C" tier. In fact, some papers that I have seen would suggest evidence to the contrary.

    Does anyone know if there is a paper specific (as opposed to journal specific) measure that can be used to evaluate the quality of our contributions? With our field still being developed, broader contributions may be very appropriate, something that I find is not as easily done in "A" tier journals. This would be advanced if we were to implement paper specific guidelines.

    Cheers
    Bill



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    Director, Entrepreneurship Certificate Program
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    ----- Original Message -----
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    This is actually an important issue, and should not be sidelined. Tenure at many schools is tied to publishing in 'A' journals. We want entrepreneurship faculty to get tenure. Unfortunately, our colleagues in other disciplines have tended to view entrepreneurship journals as second tier at best. As such, it is vital that we get our institutions, and especially colleagues in the business disciplines, to recognize the 'A' journals in entrepreneurship. Otherwise, entrepreneurship faculty will only get tenure if they publish in the 'A' journals of other disciplines. A number of research schools have rated JBV as an 'A', and it is important that all of us push for at least one 'A' in entrepreneurship, be it JBV or something else.


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    Sent: Sat 3/10/2007 4:37 PM
    To: ENTREP@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU
    Subject: Re: [ENTREP] JBV as a top journal


    Dawn:



    I don't mean to sound demeaning, but why even waste your time and effort compiling this "list." Are you trying to use it to support/defend your bid for tenure? Not too long ago, this same discussion about A, B, C, D level journals bounced over the message board. Just look at the historical messages. Personally, I think it is a joke. Developing, validating and contributing knowledge to our field is what is important; and not everyone can publish in AMJ, AMR, ETP, JBV, etc. Just because I publish in a "C" level journal does that my work is any less important or ground-breaking than someone who publishes in JBV? I will get off my soapbox, I am sure you get my meaning.



    My suggestion, don't waste your time. Focus on your research and contribution to our field.



    Jeff





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    Subject: [ENTREP] JBV as a top journal



    Hi all,

    I am finding it somewhat tedious to be sending this email given the recent impact factors, but.I need to develop a list of schools that consider JBV to be an "A" or "Premier" on their list of journal publications. I am sure we are all aware of the issues with "lists" and I agree, but that is outside the scope of my influence. Therefore, if your school considers JBV to be on your top list for publications I would very much appreciate it if you could please send me a quick email. I will compile the list and will be glad to send it to anyone else who would also like a copy.



    Thanks

    Dawn



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  • 16.  JBV as a top journal

    Posted 03-14-2007 09:49
    Journal ranking is largely a Marketing "GIMMIC" used by universities.
    First of all it turns P&T Committees into bean counters. In addition
    the committee members do not have to evaluate papers, they let editors
    and reviewers do it for them. This does slow down some of the bias
    towards committee friends and Deans' favorites.
    To check the marketing gimmick hypothesis (I have not done this, but it
    sounds interesting) correlate Journal ranking to circulation. Ideally
    one would need not gross circulation numbers, but the circulation to the
    correct audiences. Pushing faculty to write for high circulation
    journals means greater exposure of the university's name. Maybe this is
    not a bad concept, high circulation exposure means more people see the
    articles and thus an article may have more impact, but we could be more
    honest about it.
    Dick Teach
    Professor Emereitus

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    [mailto:ENTREP@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU] On Behalf Of Boal, Kim
    Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 6:21 PM
    To: ENTREP@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU
    Subject: Re: [ENTREP] JBV as a top journal

    Dear All, Ann Wil-Harzing, U of Melbourne< has developed sever indices
    that are auuthor s;peccific for evaluating research. You may find them
    on: www.harzing.com/pop.htm under "publish or perish."

    Kim Boal


    -----Original Message-----
    From: Entrepreneurship Division Listserv on behalf of Bill Todorovic,
    IPFW
    Sent: Mon 3/12/2007 11:57 PM
    To: ENTREP@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU
    Subject: Re: [ENTREP] JBV as a top journal

    As a tenure track faculty, this issue is of extreme interest to me. As a
    former entrepreneur, I must be honest and say that I still remain to be
    convinced that "A" tier journals contribute much more than "B" or even
    some "C" tier. In fact, some papers that I have seen would suggest
    evidence to the contrary.

    Does anyone know if there is a paper specific (as opposed to journal
    specific) measure that can be used to evaluate the quality of our
    contributions? With our field still being developed, broader
    contributions may be very appropriate, something that I find is not as
    easily done in "A" tier journals. This would be advanced if we were to
    implement paper specific guidelines.

    Cheers
    Bill



    Dr. Zelimir William Todorovic
    Academic Reviewer, Administrative Sciences Association of Canada

    Director, Entrepreneurship Certificate Program
    Richard T. Doermer School of Business and Management
    Indiana - Purdue University, Fort Wayne
    2101 E. Coliseum Blvd.
    Fort Wayne, Indiana, 46805-1499
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    From: Michael H Morris
    To: ENTREP@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU
    Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 12:45 PM
    Subject: Re: [ENTREP] JBV as a top journal


    This is actually an important issue, and should not be sidelined.
    Tenure at many schools is tied to publishing in 'A' journals. We want
    entrepreneurship faculty to get tenure. Unfortunately, our colleagues in
    other disciplines have tended to view entrepreneurship journals as
    second tier at best. As such, it is vital that we get our institutions,
    and especially colleagues in the business disciplines, to recognize the
    'A' journals in entrepreneurship. Otherwise, entrepreneurship faculty
    will only get tenure if they publish in the 'A' journals of other
    disciplines. A number of research schools have rated JBV as an 'A', and
    it is important that all of us push for at least one 'A' in
    entrepreneurship, be it JBV or something else.


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    From: Entrepreneurship Division Listserv on behalf of Jeff Lowenthal
    Sent: Sat 3/10/2007 4:37 PM
    To: ENTREP@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU
    Subject: Re: [ENTREP] JBV as a top journal


    Dawn:



    I don't mean to sound demeaning, but why even waste your time and
    effort compiling this "list." Are you trying to use it to
    support/defend your bid for tenure? Not too long ago, this same
    discussion about A, B, C, D level journals bounced over the message
    board. Just look at the historical messages. Personally, I think it is
    a joke. Developing, validating and contributing knowledge to our field
    is what is important; and not everyone can publish in AMJ, AMR, ETP,
    JBV, etc. Just because I publish in a "C" level journal does that my
    work is any less important or ground-breaking than someone who publishes
    in JBV? I will get off my soapbox, I am sure you get my meaning.



    My suggestion, don't waste your time. Focus on your research and
    contribution to our field.



    Jeff





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    Sam Walton Free Enterprise Fellow

    Director, NSU-CBT Economic Development Initiative



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    College of Business and Technology



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    Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 10:26 AM
    To: ENTREP@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU
    Subject: [ENTREP] JBV as a top journal



    Hi all,

    I am finding it somewhat tedious to be sending this email given the
    recent impact factors, but.I need to develop a list of schools that
    consider JBV to be an "A" or "Premier" on their list of journal
    publications. I am sure we are all aware of the issues with "lists" and
    I agree, but that is outside the scope of my influence. Therefore, if
    your school considers JBV to be on your top list for publications I
    would very much appreciate it if you could please send me a quick email.
    I will compile the list and will be glad to send it to anyone else who
    would also like a copy.



    Thanks

    Dawn



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    Assistant Professor

    College of Business

    Colorado State University

    FT Collins, CO 80523

    (970) 491-6446

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  • 17.  JBV as a top journal

    Posted 03-14-2007 16:49
    You Know, its just such a shame that so much intellectual time is spent
    playing academic games than actually contributing to knowledge.

    Reading the posts, it would seem that the marketers have won. Education
    and educators falling over themselves to provide funding for journals.
    (by of course scrambling to publish in them). The posts on this subject
    over the last few days appear to point to a sense of insecurity and the
    associated need to build a silo. For some the topic is too slippery to
    be tied down. For some the JBV is only an aspect of the whole
    construct. Creativity, innovation... Happens everywhere. Not just in
    business. It is rather arrogant of us to assume that business schools
    have a cleaner understanding on this aspect than other academics. The
    academy is about generation and dissemination of knowledge. How it gets
    out there should not be at the whim of an editor or marketer.

    Enjoy the rest of the week people

    Kind Regards

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    To: ENTREP@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU
    Subject: Re: [ENTREP] JBV as a top journal


    Thanks, Benson, for the useful post - clarifies doubts I had about
    Google
    Scholar - and thanks to Richard for the UK position on JBV and ETP. Yes,

    Anne-Wil Harzing's is the best compilation we have. Can anyone advise if

    there is a citation analysis that excludes 'self references'?

    Sanjay Bhowmick
    The University of Auckland
    New Zealand

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  • 18.  JBV as a top journal

    Posted 03-15-2007 07:03
    Hi all,

    As much as I agree with many of the critical arguments (it is contribution that counts / it is circulation that counts / not all papers in 'A' journals are used and cited much ... 'reducing Tenure and Promotion committees to bean counters'...) it always amazes/amuses me that when people whinge about things like this that they don't seem to be asking:

    - Is a LACK OF system any better? (how much arbitrariness and bias would you have then? Is there any risk that very old laurels, self-promotion skills and even good looks would be over rated? Availability heuristic? Escalation of commitment?)
    - Is the CURRENT/OTHER system any better? (e.g., in Australia we have for a long time had a system emphasising number of publications only and treating all peer reviewed publications as equally good -- there is scientific evidence [Anne-Wil Harzing, again!] this has increased the quantity but decreased the academic impact of Australian research--and more so in business econmics than in other areas)

    Personally, I prefer a system that has transparent criteria to one that hasn't, and one that is better than the current system--albeit not perfect (no system is ever going to be)--to clinging to the old one (we are currently moving towards a more quality-sensitive system in Oz, which many individuals and institutions whinge and agonise over).

    The tragedy of all the measuring, ranking and accreditation is rather the amount of time and effort that is invested into it, rather than into producing the excellent work that is the intended object of all these efforts.

    We still do research to learn, grow, have fun--and be of some use, right?

    Regards,

    Per



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  • 19.  JBV as a top journal

    Posted 03-15-2007 11:14
    Colleagues

    One point to add to this discussion is the results of tenure. If the
    purpose of tenure is to free us to attempt ground-breaking or long-term
    research, are we taking advantage of the opportunity?

    "Does Tenure Really Work?" by Wendy Williams and Stephen J. Ceci
    (Chronicle of Higher Ed, 9 March) suggests we don't.

    GKsj

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  • 20.  JBV as a top journal

    Posted 03-15-2007 11:27
    Dear Colleagues,

    I went through this whole issue about 20 years ago. Being that ENT was and still is a young and evolving field, I had to prove and sell the quality of my research. When I was in the Ph.D. program studying ENT 20 years ago, Ian MacMillan and I got into a heated discussion about the value and quality of ENT research. He came back to me with a few responses that I will never forget. First, he stated that we need strong journals to build theory and legitimacy for the field. Second, he stated that no ranking system can be used effectively. You must look at the overall contribution of the work to the field. Ever since he stated that to me, I have done exactly that. When I do research, I try to make sure that it will make some sort of significant contribution to the field. I think that these are wise words for all of us to follow. If the school you're at does not value this thinking then there are other schools that do. These are the risks that we all take in going into a young field.
     
    Dr. Todd A. Finkle
    Director, Fitzgerald Institute for Entrepreneurial Studies
    Associate Professor of Management
    Intellectual Property Center Fellow
    The University of Akron
    College of Business Administration
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    ----- Original Message ----
    From: Per Davidsson <per.davidsson@QUT.EDU.AU>
    To: ENTREP@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU
    Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 7:03:13 AM
    Subject: Re: [ENTREP] JBV as a top journal

    Hi all,

    As much as I agree with many of the critical arguments (it is contribution that counts / it is circulation that counts / not all papers in 'A' journals are used and cited much ... 'reducing Tenure and Promotion committees to bean counters'...) it always amazes/amuses me that when people whinge about things like this that they don't seem to be asking:

    - Is a LACK OF system any better? (how much arbitrariness and bias would you have then? Is there any risk that very old laurels, self-promotion skills and even good looks would be over rated? Availability heuristic? Escalation of commitment?)
    - Is the CURRENT/OTHER system any better? (e.g., in Australia we have for a long time had a system emphasising number of publications only and treating all peer reviewed publications as equally good -- there is scientific evidence [Anne-Wil Harzing, again!] this has increased the quantity but decreased the academic impact of Australian research--and more so in business econmics than in other areas)

    Personally, I prefer a system that has transparent criteria to one that hasn't, and one that is better than the current system--albeit not perfect (no system is ever going to be)--to clinging to the old one (we are currently moving towards a more quality-sensitive system in Oz, which many individuals and institutions whinge and agonise over).

    The tragedy of all the measuring, ranking and accreditation is rather the amount of time and effort that is invested into it, rather than into producing the excellent work that is the intended object of all these efforts.

    We still do research to learn, grow, have fun--and be of some use, right?

    Regards,

    Per



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  • 21.  JBV as a top journal

    Posted 03-15-2007 11:38
    Per - "and even good looks..."

    Damn -- NONE of us would get promoted!  (Norris is sobbing in the corner now...) LOL!

    Not to go Berkeley on everyone, but if I write an incredible article in a journal that nobody reads - was it an incredible article? I'd like to think so, but have I been useful? (I like Per raising that point - useful is, well, useful .. "interesting" may not be...)

    Entrepreneurial Samidzdat?
    I have some faith that the hidden gems will be found. Per & I have even had this discussion - his most-cited intentions paper isn't even published, likewise I have a fam biz paper... Maybe the best example is Alex DeNoble & Sandy Ehrlich's Babson paper that mapped out the self-efficacy scale many of us use to this day - never got published. But because it was useful...

    Maybe we need a collection of "hidden gems"!?

    Maybe we need a mechanism for surfacing those great contributions from the plethora of journals out there - we cannot read even a small fraction of them, so we go looking for useful theory, methods, etc. in the most likely spots (the usual suspects being the top journals -they still offer the best odds of reading something useful).

    Can we design a mechanism that sifts the wheat from the chaff? (If once every 2 years there's a truly great article in the Intl J of Entrepreneurship & Bicycle Repair, how do we economically find it without having to read all the others?)

    Here's a small idea: My "Research" folder on my pc is littered with good stuff that my friends send me - some are from journals I'd never heard of -some aren't even "entrepreneurship"! I try to return the favor -- word-of-mouth can be powerful.

    So, my one suggestion here is: If you see an obscure article that fits a friend's interest, send it to them! Maybe Alex's paper didn't get published, but many who saw it or saw the scale... passed it along.

    Andy's comment, "The academy is about generation and dissemination of knowledge.  How it gets out there should not be at the whim of an editor or marketer": So pass along the good stuff. [The editors can and should screen out the crap. And your prior probabilities of reading good work are highest in the top journalsbut let's go beyond that... ]

    Send along the good stuff to those who'd enjoy it. I'd rewrite Andy to say - let's me better marketers ourselves! In the marketing world, word-of-mouth is beating the snot out of media advertising... The new mantra is "BYOM" - Be Your Own Media.

    It's fun, we learn and grow, and it's.... useful!

    (And I now will be deluged with articles on entrepreneurial cognition... LOL)


    On 3/15/07, Per Davidsson <per.davidsson@qut.edu.au> wrote:
    Hi all,

    As much as I agree with many of the critical arguments (it is contribution that counts / it is circulation that counts / not all papers in 'A' journals are used and cited much ... 'reducing Tenure and Promotion committees to bean counters'...) it always amazes/amuses me that when people whinge about things like this that they don't seem to be asking:

    - Is a LACK OF system any better? (how much arbitrariness and bias would you have then? Is there any risk that very old laurels, self-promotion skills and even good looks would be over rated? Availability heuristic? Escalation of commitment?)
    - Is the CURRENT/OTHER system any better? (e.g., in Australia we have for a long time had a system emphasising number of publications only and treating all peer reviewed publications as equally good -- there is scientific evidence [Anne-Wil Harzing, again!] this has increased the quantity but decreased the academic impact of Australian research--and more so in business econmics than in other areas)

    Personally, I prefer a system that has transparent criteria to one that hasn't, and one that is better than the current system--albeit not perfect (no system is ever going to be)--to clinging to the old one (we are currently moving towards a more quality-sensitive system in Oz, which many individuals and institutions whinge and agonise over).

    The tragedy of all the measuring, ranking and accreditation is rather the amount of time and effort that is invested into it, rather than into producing the excellent work that is the intended object of all these efforts.

    We still do research to learn, grow, have fun--and be of some use, right?

    Regards,

    Per



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  • 22.  JBV as a top journal

    Posted 03-15-2007 12:08
    Andrew is absolutely on the mark - what, where and how much knowledge has
    been transferred to people who are really seeking guidance as they make
    their entrepreneurial/venturing journey. Little of real use.

    It is quite impossible to draw meaningful conclusions from empirical studies
    of the unique behavior that spawns creativity, innovation or new venture
    formations. It is not a science but rather varying manifestations of
    culturally shaped environments, random walks by risk takers towards fuzzy
    visions and goals, unseasoned adaption to unintended circumstances and
    opportunistic events. Academics having not "walked in
    entrepreneurs/innovators shoes" are ill prepared to even ask the right
    questions for research, much less lead students to understandings of the
    innovation/venturing process, rules-of-the-road or recognition of milestones
    to success. This is not an indictment but a fact.

    If we really want to transfer this knowledge specialty to add commercial
    value, we must allow more academically "unwashed" but experienced ideas,
    information, perspectives and common sense into our own knowledge base. A
    good start for all is to read the newspaper each day gleaning real life
    business and social stories about everyday people taking risks for profit to
    survive and flourish.

    Comments please,

    Jack Savidge
    Deputy Director, von Liebig Center, Univ. of California - San Diego
    jsavidge@ucsd.edu


    -----Original Message-----
    From: Entrepreneurship Division Listserv [mailto:ENTREP@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU]
    On Behalf Of Cardow, Andrew
    Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 1:49 PM
    To: ENTREP@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU
    Subject: Re: [ENTREP] JBV as a top journal

    You Know, its just such a shame that so much intellectual time is spent
    playing academic games than actually contributing to knowledge.

    Reading the posts, it would seem that the marketers have won. Education
    and educators falling over themselves to provide funding for journals.
    (by of course scrambling to publish in them). The posts on this subject
    over the last few days appear to point to a sense of insecurity and the
    associated need to build a silo. For some the topic is too slippery to
    be tied down. For some the JBV is only an aspect of the whole
    construct. Creativity, innovation... Happens everywhere. Not just in
    business. It is rather arrogant of us to assume that business schools
    have a cleaner understanding on this aspect than other academics. The
    academy is about generation and dissemination of knowledge. How it gets
    out there should not be at the whim of an editor or marketer.

    Enjoy the rest of the week people

    Kind Regards

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    [mailto:ENTREP@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU] On Behalf Of Sanjay Bhowmick
    Sent: Wednesday, 14 March 2007 12:15 p.m.
    To: ENTREP@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU
    Subject: Re: [ENTREP] JBV as a top journal


    Thanks, Benson, for the useful post - clarifies doubts I had about
    Google
    Scholar - and thanks to Richard for the UK position on JBV and ETP. Yes,

    Anne-Wil Harzing's is the best compilation we have. Can anyone advise if

    there is a citation analysis that excludes 'self references'?

    Sanjay Bhowmick
    The University of Auckland
    New Zealand

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  • 23.  JBV as a top journal

    Posted 03-15-2007 20:17
    This thread regarding the measurement of research performance in
    Entrepreneurship is a very good one. If any field within business
    academia is likely to spark reform of the current system, it is
    Entrepreneurship. But as Per points out, none of the posts have
    suggested a superior alternative.

    Posts have presented a craft-type system as a straw man. But the fact
    that such a system is rejected so readily is very disconcerting to me.
    What's wrong with a department reading and reviewing the work of its
    members? Are we not professional enough to make a reasonable effort to
    identify and neutralize biases? How can we so flippantly dismiss the
    character of our colleagues?

    The counter argument is that it would be naive to trust colleagues to
    review our work. What does that then say about the type of people whom
    business schools are hiring? Also, it is very easy to manufacture data
    and results in ways that reviewers cannot detect. Thus, the peer review
    system requires much trust as well. Why is trust appropriate in one
    context but not the other? If we cannot trust these people to make
    tenure decisions, why can we trust them to maintain research standards
    in their own work and in their reviews of journal submissions?

    I see this thread tied to a much larger problem - the infusion of
    agency theory into all aspects of life. Universal pay for performance.
    This trend is worse in the USA, but it's almost everywhere. And it's
    undermining important institutions like departmental review and
    professional standards. It's nice to hear at least a few voices
    challenging this distinctly American perspective. We should give as
    much thought and effort to strengthening our academic culture and
    standards as we do to measuring and rewarding research performance.

    Another problem with the current system is that it is creating a
    mono-culture, especially in the USA. From an ecological perspective, a
    mono-culture is terrible. It is devastating for the creativity of a
    field. This thread seems to suggest that the folks in New Zealand have
    a greater capacity for independent thought than do those of us embedded
    in the American academic mono-culture. My very limited understanding of
    the creativity literature is that assessment of any type - even positive
    - undermines creativity. Not surprisingly, most of history's great
    intellectual breakthroughs seem to have come from people who come from
    "outside the system," e.g. the Swiss patent clerk who developed the
    theory of relativity. In focusing strictly on universal assessment of
    individual performance, we are undermining our collective or community
    performance.

    As we continue to tighten the noose of peer review, we run the risk of
    ceding leadership in the field of Entrepreneurship to outsiders. The
    ultimate arbitrator of performance is not a journal, an editor, or the
    AACSB. It is the marketplace for ideas. Ultimately, we must compete
    there. If peer review does not align with the marketplace, then it will
    be selected-out. Our journals are intended to be instruments for the
    dissemination of knowledge. When no one reads them (other than us),
    they and the process that produces them loose their fitness and
    eventually become extinct.

    -Ben Powell


    Quoting Per Davidsson <per.davidsson@QUT.EDU.AU>:

    > Hi all,
    >
    > As much as I agree with many of the critical arguments (it is
    > contribution that counts / it is circulation that counts / not all
    > papers in 'A' journals are used and cited much ... 'reducing Tenure
    > and Promotion committees to bean counters'...) it always
    > amazes/amuses me that when people whinge about things like this that
    > they don't seem to be asking:
    >
    > - Is a LACK OF system any better? (how much arbitrariness and bias
    > would you have then? Is there any risk that very old laurels,
    > self-promotion skills and even good looks would be over rated?
    > Availability heuristic? Escalation of commitment?)
    > - Is the CURRENT/OTHER system any better? (e.g., in Australia we have
    > for a long time had a system emphasising number of publications only
    > and treating all peer reviewed publications as equally good -- there
    > is scientific evidence [Anne-Wil Harzing, again!] this has increased
    > the quantity but decreased the academic impact of Australian
    > research--and more so in business econmics than in other areas)
    >
    > Personally, I prefer a system that has transparent criteria to one
    > that hasn't, and one that is better than the current system--albeit
    > not perfect (no system is ever going to be)--to clinging to the old
    > one (we are currently moving towards a more quality-sensitive system
    > in Oz, which many individuals and institutions whinge and agonise
    > over).
    >
    > The tragedy of all the measuring, ranking and accreditation is rather
    > the amount of time and effort that is invested into it, rather than
    > into producing the excellent work that is the intended object of all
    > these efforts.
    >
    > We still do research to learn, grow, have fun--and be of some use,
    > right?
    >
    > Regards,
    >
    > Per
    >
    >
    >
    > Per Davidsson
    > Professor in Entrepreneurship
    > Brisbane Graduate School of Business
    > Queensland University of Technology
    > Gardens Point Campus, Brisbane
    > 4001 Queensland
    > Australia
    > Ph: +617 3138 2051
    > Fax: +617 3138 1299
    > email: per.davidsson@qut.edu.au
    >
    >
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    > accreditation
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  • 24.  JBV as a top journal

    Posted 03-16-2007 11:14
    Some of the thought provoking comments shared as a result of the
    initial question have been excellent. The discussion itself might
    have taken different directions had the initiator placed the
    question in context: Is the committee seriously seeking to
    identify quality journals? (would be one issue), or is the
    individual seeking to bolster their qualifications by arguing that
    their publication record is equivalent to an existing standard?
    (would be an entirely different issue).

    Regardless, and following the thread, I believe we are confronted
    with at least four (probably more) separate issues, and the
    dialogue appears to be blurring the separation between them, which
    is unfortunate, because I believe each is a separate issue that
    must be resolved in each individual's mind. These issues are NOT
    unique to entrepreneurship, but this is a good forum.

    1. The issue of validity of measures; what constitutes an "A"
    journal, and what does not. Unfortunately, elitism and self
    aggrandizing abound in Academia. Most journals are
    self-perpetuating (reviewers look for how many times articles from
    that journal are cited within an article submitted for review; is
    the journal's stream of thought being perpetuated?). As long as
    we're dealing with human institutions, this issue will remain. On
    one hand, there are journals (e.g. Administrative Science
    Quarterly, Academy of Management Journal, Organization Science
    .... etc., etc., etc.) that we all immediately recognize as
    "top-tier" journals. On the other hand, there numerous journals
    appearing almost daily. The quality of the article is not
    necessarily related to the quality of the journal. There are
    numerous examples of poor quality research in good journals and
    there are numerous examples of excellent research appearing in
    less than top tier journals. The quality of a journal develops
    over time (e.g., JBV, JSBM, IEMJ, etc., etc), and is heavily
    impacted by the editorial staff. Ideally, the acceptability of a
    journal should be reviewed periodically. HOWEVER, there appears
    to be strong correlation between the stature (or aspired stature)
    of the institution and the desired ranking of journals. First
    tier research Universities (we think we know who they are, and
    those who want to be there) establish more restrictive
    requirements than comprehensive Carnegie 1 Universities. Tenure
    at a Top Tier University requires publication in acceptable top
    tier journals.

    2. The issue of tenure: Tenure is determined by institutional /
    departmental criteria. The criteria are different at every
    university / institution, and are generally available for review
    prior to joining an institution. Most universities have a tiered
    review process (at WIU, there are four specific reviews each
    review period, with two additional possible if the applicant
    appeals. The department / university criteria, in fact, a form of
    contract to assure the University of having productive personnel
    and the faculty member of having assurances of some measures of
    performance standards. Review processes occur annually, and if
    done properly, should identify on-going steps that must be taken
    to assure success. The application of the process is in the hands
    of mere mortals; it will often be biased. It is also continually
    shaped by new entrants - the only way to change the tenure process
    is from the inside. AACSB (which impacts approximately 25% of the
    business schools, looks very closely at how academic
    qualifications are defined and enforced. At WIU, a Carnegie 1
    University (for example), three each of category 1, 2, and 3 are
    required. We do not specify category 1 outlets by name, but
    require that they be double-blind-reviewed. We also required that
    the be classified as being theoretical, pedagogy, or
    application-oriented contributions. We are reviewing our
    criteria with the intention of removing some ambiguity (requiring
    the applicant to demonstrably argue for intellectual contribution)
    and requiring a cohesive research stream and regularity of
    publishing. We also look at whether the publication is
    individually or collectively authored. A less prominent,
    double-blind reviewed publication that is solely authored is
    favorable to a third-named author in a top-tier journal.

    3. The issue of intellectual contribution and the dissemination
    of creative (and different) thought. The reality, unfortunately,
    is that true intellectual contribution will generally be opposed
    by the social processes for affiliation, especially in Academia.
    I am mindful of Bruno Latour's "Structure of Scientific
    Revolutions?" Copernicus & Galileo, were certainly not given
    credit (equivalent to tenure?) during their time, Deming didn't
    receive acceptance in the U.S. for how many years? More recently
    and within the field of entrepreneurship, David Birch did not get
    published in a top-tier journal, and unquestionably achieved
    significant impact. I would be interested in learning of a
    significant, paradigmatic-breaking piece of research that first
    appeared in a U.S. "A" journal? If we want to have a truly
    entrepreneurial impact on academia as a whole, why not explore the
    correlation of intellectual contribution to the outlet, and trace
    the distribution? Citations is one possible measure, if it can be
    controlled for self-citing. Citations over time is another (e.g.,
    how often is Birch's 1981 article in "Public Interest" cited?).
    Geographic dispersion (citation in foreign journals, translation
    into other languages, use in pedagogy, etc.) might be another
    measure. We could truly demonstrate methodological creativity and
    rigor in this area.

    4. The fourth issue is the intersection of personal aspirations
    and standards; and the inevitable whining. If anyone accepts a
    position at a university without clearly understanding and
    accepting the tenure requirements; shame on them. As educators,
    we are familiar with the many students who challenge the standards
    rather than recognizing their personal responsibility. It is no
    different for faculty. Ultimately, it is the applicant's duty to
    demonstrate a cohesive research stream impact onto the academic
    community, and this can be done in many different ways.

    Pardon the long discourse, but having just served on (and
    chaired) our department's personnel committee during reviews) and
    having seen great variance in what was submitted, I thought
    perhaps someone would be interested in having the issues separated
    from each other.

    Emeric

    Dr. Emeric Solymossy (Dr. E.)
    Assoc. Professor of Management and Entrepreneurship
    Western Illinois University - Quad Cities
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    From: Entrepreneurship Division Listserv
    [mailto:ENTREP@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU] On Behalf Of bpowell@BAMA.UA.EDU
    Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 7:17 PM
    To: ENTREP@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU
    Subject: Re: [ENTREP] JBV as a top journal

    This thread regarding the measurement of research performance in
    Entrepreneurship is a very good one. If any field within business
    academia is likely to spark reform of the current system, it is
    Entrepreneurship. But as Per points out, none of the posts have
    suggested a superior alternative.

    Posts have presented a craft-type system as a straw man. But the
    fact
    that such a system is rejected so readily is very disconcerting to
    me.
    What's wrong with a department reading and reviewing the work of
    its
    members? Are we not professional enough to make a reasonable
    effort to
    identify and neutralize biases? How can we so flippantly dismiss
    the
    character of our colleagues?

    The counter argument is that it would be naive to trust colleagues
    to
    review our work. What does that then say about the type of people
    whom
    business schools are hiring? Also, it is very easy to manufacture
    data
    and results in ways that reviewers cannot detect. Thus, the peer
    review
    system requires much trust as well. Why is trust appropriate in
    one
    context but not the other? If we cannot trust these people to
    make
    tenure decisions, why can we trust them to maintain research
    standards
    in their own work and in their reviews of journal submissions?

    I see this thread tied to a much larger problem - the infusion of
    agency theory into all aspects of life. Universal pay for
    performance.
    This trend is worse in the USA, but it's almost everywhere. And
    it's
    undermining important institutions like departmental review and
    professional standards. It's nice to hear at least a few voices
    challenging this distinctly American perspective. We should give
    as
    much thought and effort to strengthening our academic culture and
    standards as we do to measuring and rewarding research
    performance.

    Another problem with the current system is that it is creating a
    mono-culture, especially in the USA. From an ecological
    perspective, a
    mono-culture is terrible. It is devastating for the creativity of
    a
    field. This thread seems to suggest that the folks in New Zealand
    have
    a greater capacity for independent thought than do those of us
    embedded
    in the American academic mono-culture. My very limited
    understanding of
    the creativity literature is that assessment of any type - even
    positive
    - undermines creativity. Not surprisingly, most of history's
    great
    intellectual breakthroughs seem to have come from people who come
    from
    "outside the system," e.g. the Swiss patent clerk who developed
    the
    theory of relativity. In focusing strictly on universal
    assessment of
    individual performance, we are undermining our collective or
    community
    performance.

    As we continue to tighten the noose of peer review, we run the
    risk of
    ceding leadership in the field of Entrepreneurship to outsiders.
    The
    ultimate arbitrator of performance is not a journal, an editor, or
    the
    AACSB. It is the marketplace for ideas. Ultimately, we must
    compete
    there. If peer review does not align with the marketplace, then
    it will
    be selected-out. Our journals are intended to be instruments for
    the
    dissemination of knowledge. When no one reads them (other than
    us),
    they and the process that produces them loose their fitness and
    eventually become extinct.

    -Ben Powell


    Quoting Per Davidsson <per.davidsson@QUT.EDU.AU>:

    > Hi all,
    >
    > As much as I agree with many of the critical arguments (it is
    > contribution that counts / it is circulation that counts / not
    all
    > papers in 'A' journals are used and cited much ... 'reducing
    Tenure
    > and Promotion committees to bean counters'...) it always
    > amazes/amuses me that when people whinge about things like this
    that
    > they don't seem to be asking:
    >
    > - Is a LACK OF system any better? (how much arbitrariness and
    bias
    > would you have then? Is there any risk that very old laurels,
    > self-promotion skills and even good looks would be over rated?
    > Availability heuristic? Escalation of commitment?)
    > - Is the CURRENT/OTHER system any better? (e.g., in Australia we
    have
    > for a long time had a system emphasising number of publications
    only
    > and treating all peer reviewed publications as equally good --
    there
    > is scientific evidence [Anne-Wil Harzing, again!] this has
    increased
    > the quantity but decreased the academic impact of Australian
    > research--and more so in business econmics than in other areas)
    >
    > Personally, I prefer a system that has transparent criteria to
    one
    > that hasn't, and one that is better than the current
    system--albeit
    > not perfect (no system is ever going to be)--to clinging to the
    old
    > one (we are currently moving towards a more quality-sensitive
    system
    > in Oz, which many individuals and institutions whinge and
    agonise
    > over).
    >
    > The tragedy of all the measuring, ranking and accreditation is
    rather
    > the amount of time and effort that is invested into it, rather
    than
    > into producing the excellent work that is the intended object of
    all
    > these efforts.
    >
    > We still do research to learn, grow, have fun--and be of some
    use,
    > right?
    >
    > Regards,
    >
    > Per
    >
    >
    >
    > Per Davidsson
    > Professor in Entrepreneurship
    > Brisbane Graduate School of Business
    > Queensland University of Technology
    > Gardens Point Campus, Brisbane
    > 4001 Queensland
    > Australia
    > Ph: +617 3138 2051
    > Fax: +617 3138 1299
    > email: per.davidsson@qut.edu.au
    >
    >
    > Australia's first MBA with the 'triple crown' of
    > accreditation
    >
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  • 25.  JBV as a top journal

    Posted 03-16-2007 14:33
    Entrepreneurship is a multifaceted concept, sometimes involving practitioners, as well as teachers, scholars, and researchers. All of us make a contribution to the field, in different ways. For those with a passion to teach, exclusively, there are plenty of outlets. They may earn teaching awards, including those we offer at the Academy. They can ascend the ladder at teaching institutions. I respect these individuals, and work with them. Hopefully, they respect me as well. While some of the language on this list-serv has been counter productive, I’d like to think it reflects elements of frustration rather than intra-disciplinary contempt.

    Tenure was originally designed to ensure academic freedom. In this day and age, it’s nearly redundant – and I personally know of few contemporary cases in the Western world where colleagues lost their jobs because a Dean or President didn’t like the politics of their research output, or their views in the classroom. I have gone on record saying “those that need tenure, shouldn’t get it, those that have it, shouldn’t need it”. It’s not a popular view, but that’s the one I hold. I feel a bit sorry for those at research oriented Universities who worked like hell to get tenure, and immediately stopped doing research once they obtained it. I suppose they never really liked doing research in the first place. I consider myself very lucky. Unlike them, I have a passion for research – and while this might not enhance my citation count, it certainly makes me a happier and more persistent scholar. I also think that active researchers tend to be better teachers – but that’s only my opinion. Perhaps there are great teachers out there who never read an “A” journal article in their lives. I do wonder how they stay current, and how they know what they are teaching is accurate, but maybe there are other ways…

    As to knowledge diffusion – it a happens slowly, as plenty of research has shown. Implementation is also subject to institutional and political constraints, which can be formidable. Ignaz Semmelweis, a Viennese physician and researcher, deduced the theory of microbiology in the 19th century. His recommendation, that attending physicians wash their hands with lime, reduced patient mortality from 18% to under 3%. He was derided for his ideas (how could upper class doctors harbour evil invisible things on their bodies?), driven out of the Academy, out of Vienna, and eventually died of an infection he contracted during surgery recovering from a nervous breakdown.
    Once in a while the main-stream press gets a hold of a piece of research and promotes it, and it becomes a matter of “common sense”. If you’re lucky, and the research is good and interesting, it may happen to you (if not, you’re in fine company with Ignaz!).

    As academics, we have an obligation to learn from our mistakes, ask probing questions, and attempt to incrementally, and as objectively as possible, move human knowledge forward. Everyone makes a contribution. All journals, including the “A” ones, are written for a very selective audience. Each of us should set our own standards and goals, and try and improve our activities, however we decide to measure them. Success will be rewarding, make us happier, improve our teaching and learning environment, and establish a virtuous cycle for everyone involved.

    Can we all be friends now???
    Benson Honig

    Benson Honig Ph.D.
    Betty and Peter Sims Professor of Entrepreneurship,
    Director, NeXt
    Wilfrid Laurier School of Business and Economics
    Waterloo Ontario Canada N2L3C5
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    >>> "Konz, Gregory" <gkonz@REGIS.EDU> 03/15/07 11:13 AM >>>
    Colleagues

    One point to add to this discussion is the results of tenure. If the
    purpose of tenure is to free us to attempt ground-breaking or long-term
    research, are we taking advantage of the opportunity?

    "Does Tenure Really Work?" by Wendy Williams and Stephen J. Ceci
    (Chronicle of Higher Ed, 9 March) suggests we don't.

    GKsj

    Gregory N. P. Konz, S.J.

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