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For discussion: science-practice gap in entrepreneurship?

  • 1.  For discussion: science-practice gap in entrepreneurship?

    Posted 11-11-2015 14:08
    Dear entrepreneurship colleagues,

    A few of my colleagues and I are working on a project exploring the potential science-practice gap in entrepreneurship. And, we would be grateful for your thoughts on the following two questions. We would be happy to summarize responses and email them to anyone interested.

    1. Is there a gap between science and practice in the domain of entrepreneurship—a disconnect between academic research and the practice of entrepreneurship? What empirical evidence do we have that such a gap might exist? Any references to articles quantifying this gap would be appreciated.

    2. If there is a gap, is this a bad thing? If so, why? If not, why not?

    Best regards, Jeff

    Jeff Pollack
    Assistant Professor
    Management, Innovation, and Entrepreneurship Department
    Poole College of Management
    NC State University
    2801 Founders Drive, Campus Box 7229
    jmpolla3@ncsu.edu

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  • 2.  For discussion: science-practice gap in entrepreneurship?

    Posted 11-11-2015 15:38
    Jeff - Another way to frame this question is to ask entrepreneurs how useful research on entrepreneurship is for practice and to ask researchers what types of questions entrepreneurs ask that we lack scientific data to answer? In my experience, the gap is wide but collaboration can be fruitful.

    Entrepreneurship research does a pretty good job on psychological factors and team composition and we are getting better at answering questions about access to resources (financial capital, human capital, social networks, and legitimacy). But we don't provide much practical data on industries and market mechanisms. Personally, I'd like to see more data on contracts, deal terms and partnerships - and I don't mean blogger opinions. Importantly, life sciences and biotechnology are understudied industries because of the long timelines to market/exit, market and regulatory complexity, and B2B business models. In terms of organizational functions, I haven't seen any studies on personnel management, hiring and firing in startups relative to large firms. Terms of employment are very different. Startups rely heavily on local support organizations and professional service advisors for the 411 on legal, regulatory, and practical advice. None of these types of advisors base advice on scientific research that I can tell. It's all personal experience and observation.

    I look forward to see what else others have to say about your question.

    Best,
    Amanda

    Amanda Elam, PhD
    President, Galaxy Diagnostics
    Research Advisor, Global Luxury Management, NCSU
    Research Director, Babson Center for Women's Entrepreneurial Leadership

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    Dear entrepreneurship colleagues,

    A few of my colleagues and I are working on a project exploring the potential science-practice gap in entrepreneurship. And, we would be grateful for your thoughts on the following two questions. We would be happy to summarize responses and email them to anyone interested.

    1. Is there a gap between science and practice in the domain of entrepreneurship—a disconnect between academic research and the practice of entrepreneurship? What empirical evidence do we have that such a gap might exist? Any references to articles quantifying this gap would be appreciated.

    2. If there is a gap, is this a bad thing? If so, why? If not, why not?

    Best regards, Jeff

    Jeff Pollack
    Assistant Professor
    Management, Innovation, and Entrepreneurship Department Poole College of Management NC State University
    2801 Founders Drive, Campus Box 7229
    jmpolla3@ncsu.edu

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  • 3.  For discussion: science-practice gap in entrepreneurship?

    Posted 11-11-2015 15:38
    Dear Jeff,

    My position, as presented at the last Academy of Management Scholar-Practitioner PDW, is that there is a gap between Scholar and Practitioner and it is quite normal and to be expected. The Scholar creates new knowledge and the Practitioner uses it.

    It is the same gap as you would find between the Farmer who grows wheat and the Family who eats bread. And inbetween there is the distribution channel creating the right products and assortment for the end user.

    The challenge occurs when you expect the Scholar to provide a completely integrated and seamless distribution channel from production to consumption. That is a lot to ask.

    The consumer does not criticise the Farmer for not growing bread. Nor does the Farmer criticise the Family for not eating raw wheat. So why should we not understand this gap between Scholar and Practitioner?

    Thank you for raising this question because the more we discuss it the better we will understand the challenges involved for both Scholars and Practitioners and how to overcome them.

    Cheers,
    Roxanne

    Dr. Roxanne Zolin | Associate Professor | School of Management
    QUT Business School | Queensland University of Technology | www.qut.edu.au/business
    Phone: + 61 7 3138 5095 | Mobile: 0433 400 113 | Email: r.zolin@qut.edu.au | CRICOS No. 00213J

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    Sent: Thursday, 12 November 2015 5:08 AM
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    Subject: [ENTREP] For discussion: science-practice gap in entrepreneurship?

    Dear entrepreneurship colleagues,

    A few of my colleagues and I are working on a project exploring the potential science-practice gap in entrepreneurship. And, we would be grateful for your thoughts on the following two questions. We would be happy to summarize responses and email them to anyone interested.

    1. Is there a gap between science and practice in the domain of entrepreneurship—a disconnect between academic research and the practice of entrepreneurship? What empirical evidence do we have that such a gap might exist? Any references to articles quantifying this gap would be appreciated.

    2. If there is a gap, is this a bad thing? If so, why? If not, why not?

    Best regards, Jeff

    Jeff Pollack
    Assistant Professor
    Management, Innovation, and Entrepreneurship Department
    Poole College of Management
    NC State University
    2801 Founders Drive, Campus Box 7229
    jmpolla3@ncsu.edu

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  • 4.  For discussion: science-practice gap in entrepreneurship?

    Posted 11-12-2015 00:45
    Interesting analogies, Roxanne.

    Would like to add to your comment about "The Scholar creates new knowledge and the Practitioner uses it>" It seems to me that the research model that requires researching everything that has been found before then doing a current practices study (possibly) which may indicate that times have changed from when those past studies were done and now it might be that what is going on indicates a different perspective--a study of the practitioners who are on the leading edge of things that work begs the chicken and egg question. The practitioners are showing what works and doesn't work--creating the "proof" of new knowledge. The scholar is often hot footing it to reflect what the new knowledge is...especially in Entrepreneurship...it seems that practice sometimes is out in front a long ways...am reminded of the Amazon model--no way that could have worked...good thing Bezos didn't know that. And Starbucks? Whoduthunk it? And, what is the time frame?
    Would the Amazon model (whatever THAT is) work today? Tomorrow?

    I'd almost rephrase the comment as "The Scholar observes the Practitioner(s) and tries to capture the current state of the knowledge of the field in such a way that it might be useful to other practitioners and Scholars and students, (other stakeholders/shareholders) and society:-) That capturing may require us to better specify the circumstances under which it will work...arghhhh...it keeps changing....exciting times.
    Harriet Stephenson
    Professor Emeritus
    Seattle University

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    Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 12:49 PM
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    Subject: Re: [ENTREP] For discussion: science-practice gap in entrepreneurship?

    Dear Jeff,

    My position, as presented at the last Academy of Management Scholar-Practitioner PDW, is that there is a gap between Scholar and Practitioner and it is quite normal and to be expected. The Scholar creates new knowledge and the Practitioner uses it.

    It is the same gap as you would find between the Farmer who grows wheat and the Family who eats bread. And inbetween there is the distribution channel creating the right products and assortment for the end user.

    The challenge occurs when you expect the Scholar to provide a completely integrated and seamless distribution channel from production to consumption. That is a lot to ask.

    The consumer does not criticise the Farmer for not growing bread. Nor does the Farmer criticise the Family for not eating raw wheat. So why should we not understand this gap between Scholar and Practitioner?

    Thank you for raising this question because the more we discuss it the better we will understand the challenges involved for both Scholars and Practitioners and how to overcome them.

    Cheers,
    Roxanne

    Dr. Roxanne Zolin | Associate Professor | School of Management QUT Business School | Queensland University of Technology | www.qut.edu.au/business
    Phone: + 61 7 3138 5095 | Mobile: 0433 400 113 | Email: r.zolin@qut.edu.au | CRICOS No. 00213J

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    From: Entrepreneurship Division Listserv <ENTREP@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU> on behalf of Jeff Pollack <jmpolla3@NCSU.EDU>
    Sent: Thursday, 12 November 2015 5:08 AM
    To: ENTREP@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU
    Subject: [ENTREP] For discussion: science-practice gap in entrepreneurship?

    Dear entrepreneurship colleagues,

    A few of my colleagues and I are working on a project exploring the potential science-practice gap in entrepreneurship. And, we would be grateful for your thoughts on the following two questions. We would be happy to summarize responses and email them to anyone interested.

    1. Is there a gap between science and practice in the domain of entrepreneurship-a disconnect between academic research and the practice of entrepreneurship? What empirical evidence do we have that such a gap might exist? Any references to articles quantifying this gap would be appreciated.

    2. If there is a gap, is this a bad thing? If so, why? If not, why not?

    Best regards, Jeff

    Jeff Pollack
    Assistant Professor
    Management, Innovation, and Entrepreneurship Department Poole College of Management NC State University
    2801 Founders Drive, Campus Box 7229
    jmpolla3@ncsu.edu

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  • 5.  For discussion: science-practice gap in entrepreneurship?

    Posted 11-12-2015 03:37
    Jeff (et al.),

    I elaborated on my views on this in this article back in 2002: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/27466862_What_Entrepreneurship_Research_Can_Do_for_Business_and_Policy_Practice

    A lot has happened since then, but the fundamental issues remain.

    When a field of research grows and matures, it is easy to get the impression that relevance suffers. And sometimes one cannot help thinking that published research articles increasingly addresses small or peripheral or esoteric issues wrapped in pompous, convoluted language. However, the quality of entrepreneurship research has no doubt increased dramatically, and there is reason to consider how relevant poor quality research (as in the 'good old days') really can be. Moreover, one can get the impression of decreasing relevance because *individual articles* have narrower scope and hence offer even less "complete" solutions to practitioner problems than before. However, this does not mean that the *field of entrepreneurship research* has become less relevant as a whole. I think the total body of knowledge today provides much more practice-relevant advice than what used to be the case.

    Best Regards,

    Per


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    Interesting analogies, Roxanne.

    Would like to add to your comment about "The Scholar creates new knowledge and the Practitioner uses it>" It seems to me that the research model that requires researching everything that has been found before then doing a current practices study (possibly) which may indicate that times have changed from when those past studies were done and now it might be that what is going on indicates a different perspective--a study of the practitioners who are on the leading edge of things that work begs the chicken and egg question. The practitioners are showing what works and doesn't work--creating the "proof" of new knowledge. The scholar is often hot footing it to reflect what the new knowledge is...especially in Entrepreneurship...it seems that practice sometimes is out in front a long ways...am reminded of the Amazon model--no way that could have worked...good thing Bezos didn't know that. And Starbucks? Whoduthunk it? And, what is the time frame?
    Would the Amazon model (whatever THAT is) work today? Tomorrow?

    I'd almost rephrase the comment as "The Scholar observes the Practitioner(s) and tries to capture the current state of the knowledge of the field in such a way that it might be useful to other practitioners and Scholars and students, (other stakeholders/shareholders) and society:-) That capturing may require us to better specify the circumstances under which it will work...arghhhh...it keeps changing....exciting times.
    Harriet Stephenson
    Professor Emeritus
    Seattle University

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Entrepreneurship Division Listserv [mailto:ENTREP@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU] On Behalf Of Roxanne Zolin
    Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 12:49 PM
    To: ENTREP@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU
    Subject: Re: [ENTREP] For discussion: science-practice gap in entrepreneurship?

    Dear Jeff,

    My position, as presented at the last Academy of Management Scholar-Practitioner PDW, is that there is a gap between Scholar and Practitioner and it is quite normal and to be expected. The Scholar creates new knowledge and the Practitioner uses it.

    It is the same gap as you would find between the Farmer who grows wheat and the Family who eats bread. And inbetween there is the distribution channel creating the right products and assortment for the end user.

    The challenge occurs when you expect the Scholar to provide a completely integrated and seamless distribution channel from production to consumption. That is a lot to ask.

    The consumer does not criticise the Farmer for not growing bread. Nor does the Farmer criticise the Family for not eating raw wheat. So why should we not understand this gap between Scholar and Practitioner?

    Thank you for raising this question because the more we discuss it the better we will understand the challenges involved for both Scholars and Practitioners and how to overcome them.

    Cheers,
    Roxanne

    Dr. Roxanne Zolin | Associate Professor | School of Management QUT Business School | Queensland University of Technology | www.qut.edu.au/business
    Phone: + 61 7 3138 5095 | Mobile: 0433 400 113 | Email: r.zolin@qut.edu.au | CRICOS No. 00213J

    ________________________________________
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    Sent: Thursday, 12 November 2015 5:08 AM
    To: ENTREP@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU
    Subject: [ENTREP] For discussion: science-practice gap in entrepreneurship?

    Dear entrepreneurship colleagues,

    A few of my colleagues and I are working on a project exploring the potential science-practice gap in entrepreneurship. And, we would be grateful for your thoughts on the following two questions. We would be happy to summarize responses and email them to anyone interested.

    1. Is there a gap between science and practice in the domain of entrepreneurship-a disconnect between academic research and the practice of entrepreneurship? What empirical evidence do we have that such a gap might exist? Any references to articles quantifying this gap would be appreciated.

    2. If there is a gap, is this a bad thing? If so, why? If not, why not?

    Best regards, Jeff

    Jeff Pollack
    Assistant Professor
    Management, Innovation, and Entrepreneurship Department Poole College of Management NC State University
    2801 Founders Drive, Campus Box 7229
    jmpolla3@ncsu.edu

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  • 6.  For discussion: science-practice gap in entrepreneurship?

    Posted 11-12-2015 04:17
    Yes to Harriet,

    I'd almost rephrase the comment as "The Scholar observes the Practitioner(s)
    and tries to capture the current state of the knowledge of the field in such
    a way that it might be useful to other practitioners and Scholars and
    students, (other stakeholders/shareholders) and society:-) That capturing
    may require us to better specify the circumstances under which it will
    work...arghhhh...it keeps changing....exciting times.
    Harriet Stephenson
    Professor Emeritus
    Seattle University

    "The Scholar creates new knowledge and the Practitioner uses it" - total
    fucking bollocks!

    Research, by definition, is historical!




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    On Behalf Of Stephenson, Harriet
    Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 12:45 AM
    To: ENTREP@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU
    Subject: Re: [ENTREP] For discussion: science-practice gap in
    entrepreneurship?

    Interesting analogies, Roxanne.

    Would like to add to your comment about "The Scholar creates new knowledge
    and the Practitioner uses it>" It seems to me that the research model that
    requires researching everything that has been found before then doing a
    current practices study (possibly) which may indicate that times have
    changed from when those past studies were done and now it might be that what
    is going on indicates a different perspective--a study of the practitioners
    who are on the leading edge of things that work begs the chicken and egg
    question. The practitioners are showing what works and doesn't
    work--creating the "proof" of new knowledge. The scholar is often hot
    footing it to reflect what the new knowledge is...especially in
    Entrepreneurship...it seems that practice sometimes is out in front a long
    ways...am reminded of the Amazon model--no way that could have worked...good
    thing Bezos didn't know that. And Starbucks? Whoduthunk it? And, what is
    the time frame?
    Would the Amazon model (whatever THAT is) work today? Tomorrow?

    I'd almost rephrase the comment as "The Scholar observes the Practitioner(s)
    and tries to capture the current state of the knowledge of the field in
    such a way that it might be useful to other practitioners and Scholars and
    students, (other stakeholders/shareholders) and society:-) That capturing
    may require us to better specify the circumstances under which it will
    work...arghhhh...it keeps changing....exciting times.
    Harriet Stephenson
    Professor Emeritus
    Seattle University

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Entrepreneurship Division Listserv [mailto:ENTREP@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU]
    On Behalf Of Roxanne Zolin
    Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 12:49 PM
    To: ENTREP@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU
    Subject: Re: [ENTREP] For discussion: science-practice gap in
    entrepreneurship?

    Dear Jeff,

    My position, as presented at the last Academy of Management
    Scholar-Practitioner PDW, is that there is a gap between Scholar and
    Practitioner and it is quite normal and to be expected. The Scholar creates
    new knowledge and the Practitioner uses it.

    It is the same gap as you would find between the Farmer who grows wheat and
    the Family who eats bread. And inbetween there is the distribution channel
    creating the right products and assortment for the end user.

    The challenge occurs when you expect the Scholar to provide a completely
    integrated and seamless distribution channel from production to consumption.
    That is a lot to ask.

    The consumer does not criticise the Farmer for not growing bread. Nor does
    the Farmer criticise the Family for not eating raw wheat. So why should we
    not understand this gap between Scholar and Practitioner?

    Thank you for raising this question because the more we discuss it the
    better we will understand the challenges involved for both Scholars and
    Practitioners and how to overcome them.

    Cheers,
    Roxanne

    Dr. Roxanne Zolin | Associate Professor | School of Management QUT Business
    School | Queensland University of Technology | www.qut.edu.au/business
    Phone: + 61 7 3138 5095 | Mobile: 0433 400 113 | Email: r.zolin@qut.edu.au
    | CRICOS No. 00213J

    ________________________________________
    From: Entrepreneurship Division Listserv <ENTREP@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU> on
    behalf of Jeff Pollack <jmpolla3@NCSU.EDU>
    Sent: Thursday, 12 November 2015 5:08 AM
    To: ENTREP@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU
    Subject: [ENTREP] For discussion: science-practice gap in entrepreneurship?

    Dear entrepreneurship colleagues,

    A few of my colleagues and I are working on a project exploring the
    potential science-practice gap in entrepreneurship. And, we would be
    grateful for your thoughts on the following two questions. We would be happy
    to summarize responses and email them to anyone interested.

    1. Is there a gap between science and practice in the domain of
    entrepreneurship-a disconnect between academic research and the practice of
    entrepreneurship? What empirical evidence do we have that such a gap might
    exist? Any references to articles quantifying this gap would be appreciated.

    2. If there is a gap, is this a bad thing? If so, why? If not, why not?

    Best regards, Jeff

    Jeff Pollack
    Assistant Professor
    Management, Innovation, and Entrepreneurship Department Poole College of
    Management NC State University
    2801 Founders Drive, Campus Box 7229
    jmpolla3@ncsu.edu

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  • 7.  For discussion: science-practice gap in entrepreneurship?

    Posted 11-12-2015 15:00
    Dear John,

    While research is historical, theory is predictive.

    As they say: "Nothing as practical as a good theory!"

    Per's book really addresses some of the issues of attempting vertical integration from producer to consumer:
    * Different goals
    * Different time frames
    * Different knowledge (theoretical versus concrete).

    That is why the consumer needs the "Retail distribution level" (Consultant or self-education) to assemble the assortment of theory needed to address the problem and to actually apply it to the problem.

    In the short time frames of practice education provides a background of theory and frameworks, which may be helpful in making decisions on the fly.

    Alternatively for more important problems a Consultant could perform the analysis and application functions.

    As with many problem situations, bringing the relevant disciplines together (Research and Practice) has the greatest potential for success if both parties can be suitable motivated towards solving the problem.

    The Conusltant, while typically also having relevant industry experience, can also bring the relevant research knowledge to bear on the problem.

    Cheers,
    Roxanne

    Dr. Roxanne Zolin | Associate Professor | School of Management
    QUT Business School | Queensland University of Technology | www.qut.edu.au/business
    Phone: + 61 7 3138 5095 | Mobile: 0433 400 113 | Email: r.zolin@qut.edu.au | CRICOS No. 00213J

    ________________________________________
    From: Entrepreneurship Division Listserv <ENTREP@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU> on behalf of Dr. John O'Dwyer <docjohn@STRATEGICADVISORY.BIZ>
    Sent: Thursday, 12 November 2015 7:16 PM
    To: ENTREP@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU
    Subject: Re: [ENTREP] For discussion: science-practice gap in entrepreneurship?

    Yes to Harriet,

    I'd almost rephrase the comment as "The Scholar observes the Practitioner(s)
    and tries to capture the current state of the knowledge of the field in such
    a way that it might be useful to other practitioners and Scholars and
    students, (other stakeholders/shareholders) and society:-) That capturing
    may require us to better specify the circumstances under which it will
    work...arghhhh...it keeps changing....exciting times.
    Harriet Stephenson
    Professor Emeritus
    Seattle University

    "The Scholar creates new knowledge and the Practitioner uses it" - total
    fucking bollocks!

    Research, by definition, is historical!




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    On Behalf Of Stephenson, Harriet
    Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 12:45 AM
    To: ENTREP@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU
    Subject: Re: [ENTREP] For discussion: science-practice gap in
    entrepreneurship?

    Interesting analogies, Roxanne.

    Would like to add to your comment about "The Scholar creates new knowledge
    and the Practitioner uses it>" It seems to me that the research model that
    requires researching everything that has been found before then doing a
    current practices study (possibly) which may indicate that times have
    changed from when those past studies were done and now it might be that what
    is going on indicates a different perspective--a study of the practitioners
    who are on the leading edge of things that work begs the chicken and egg
    question. The practitioners are showing what works and doesn't
    work--creating the "proof" of new knowledge. The scholar is often hot
    footing it to reflect what the new knowledge is...especially in
    Entrepreneurship...it seems that practice sometimes is out in front a long
    ways...am reminded of the Amazon model--no way that could have worked...good
    thing Bezos didn't know that. And Starbucks? Whoduthunk it? And, what is
    the time frame?
    Would the Amazon model (whatever THAT is) work today? Tomorrow?

    I'd almost rephrase the comment as "The Scholar observes the Practitioner(s)
    and tries to capture the current state of the knowledge of the field in
    such a way that it might be useful to other practitioners and Scholars and
    students, (other stakeholders/shareholders) and society:-) That capturing
    may require us to better specify the circumstances under which it will
    work...arghhhh...it keeps changing....exciting times.
    Harriet Stephenson
    Professor Emeritus
    Seattle University

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Entrepreneurship Division Listserv [mailto:ENTREP@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU]
    On Behalf Of Roxanne Zolin
    Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 12:49 PM
    To: ENTREP@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU
    Subject: Re: [ENTREP] For discussion: science-practice gap in
    entrepreneurship?

    Dear Jeff,

    My position, as presented at the last Academy of Management
    Scholar-Practitioner PDW, is that there is a gap between Scholar and
    Practitioner and it is quite normal and to be expected. The Scholar creates
    new knowledge and the Practitioner uses it.

    It is the same gap as you would find between the Farmer who grows wheat and
    the Family who eats bread. And inbetween there is the distribution channel
    creating the right products and assortment for the end user.

    The challenge occurs when you expect the Scholar to provide a completely
    integrated and seamless distribution channel from production to consumption.
    That is a lot to ask.

    The consumer does not criticise the Farmer for not growing bread. Nor does
    the Farmer criticise the Family for not eating raw wheat. So why should we
    not understand this gap between Scholar and Practitioner?

    Thank you for raising this question because the more we discuss it the
    better we will understand the challenges involved for both Scholars and
    Practitioners and how to overcome them.

    Cheers,
    Roxanne

    Dr. Roxanne Zolin | Associate Professor | School of Management QUT Business
    School | Queensland University of Technology | www.qut.edu.au/business
    Phone: + 61 7 3138 5095 | Mobile: 0433 400 113 | Email: r.zolin@qut.edu.au
    | CRICOS No. 00213J

    ________________________________________
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    behalf of Jeff Pollack <jmpolla3@NCSU.EDU>
    Sent: Thursday, 12 November 2015 5:08 AM
    To: ENTREP@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU
    Subject: [ENTREP] For discussion: science-practice gap in entrepreneurship?

    Dear entrepreneurship colleagues,

    A few of my colleagues and I are working on a project exploring the
    potential science-practice gap in entrepreneurship. And, we would be
    grateful for your thoughts on the following two questions. We would be happy
    to summarize responses and email them to anyone interested.

    1. Is there a gap between science and practice in the domain of
    entrepreneurship-a disconnect between academic research and the practice of
    entrepreneurship? What empirical evidence do we have that such a gap might
    exist? Any references to articles quantifying this gap would be appreciated.

    2. If there is a gap, is this a bad thing? If so, why? If not, why not?

    Best regards, Jeff

    Jeff Pollack
    Assistant Professor
    Management, Innovation, and Entrepreneurship Department Poole College of
    Management NC State University
    2801 Founders Drive, Campus Box 7229
    jmpolla3@ncsu.edu

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  • 8.  For discussion: science-practice gap in entrepreneurship?

    Posted 11-12-2015 15:17
    For an entrepreneurship theory that is predictive and normative, that looks into the black box of the entrepreneurial process, and that bridges the entrepreneurship theory and practice, please see our book The Theory of Entrepreneurship, Palgrave and Macmillan.

    Chandra


    Sent from my iPad

    On Nov 12, 2015, at 3:10 PM, Roxanne Zolin <r.zolin@QUT.EDU.AU> wrote:

    Dear John,

    While research is historical, theory is predictive.

    As they say: "Nothing as practical as a good theory!"

    Per's book really addresses some of the issues of attempting vertical integration from producer to consumer:
    * Different goals
    * Different time frames
    * Different knowledge (theoretical versus concrete).

    That is why the consumer needs the "Retail distribution level" (Consultant or self-education) to  assemble the assortment of theory needed to address the problem and to actually apply it to the problem.

    In the short time frames of practice education provides a background of theory and frameworks, which may be helpful in making decisions on the fly.

    Alternatively for more important problems a Consultant could perform the analysis and application functions.

    As with many problem situations, bringing the relevant disciplines together  (Research and Practice) has the greatest potential for success if both parties can be suitable motivated towards solving the problem.  

    The Conusltant, while typically also having relevant industry experience, can also bring the relevant research knowledge to bear on  the problem.

    Cheers,
    Roxanne

    Dr. Roxanne Zolin | Associate Professor | School of Management
    QUT Business School | Queensland University of Technology | www.qut.edu.au/business
    Phone: + 61 7 3138 5095 | Mobile:  0433 400 113 | Email: r.zolin@qut.edu.au | CRICOS No. 00213J

    ________________________________________
    From: Entrepreneurship Division Listserv <ENTREP@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU> on behalf of Dr. John O'Dwyer <docjohn@STRATEGICADVISORY.BIZ>
    Sent: Thursday, 12 November 2015 7:16 PM
    To: ENTREP@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU
    Subject: Re: [ENTREP] For discussion: science-practice gap in entrepreneurship?

    Yes to Harriet,

    I'd almost rephrase the comment as "The Scholar observes the Practitioner(s)
    and tries to capture the current state of the knowledge of the field in such
    a way that it might be useful to other practitioners and Scholars and
    students, (other stakeholders/shareholders) and society:-) That capturing
    may require us to better specify the circumstances under which it will
    work...arghhhh...it keeps changing....exciting times.
    Harriet Stephenson
    Professor Emeritus
    Seattle University

    "The Scholar creates new knowledge and the Practitioner uses it" - total
    fucking bollocks!

    Research, by definition, is historical!




    -----Original Message-----
    From: Entrepreneurship Division Listserv [mailto:ENTREP@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU]
    On Behalf Of Stephenson, Harriet
    Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 12:45 AM
    To: ENTREP@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU
    Subject: Re: [ENTREP] For discussion: science-practice gap in
    entrepreneurship?

    Interesting analogies, Roxanne.

    Would like to add to your comment about "The Scholar creates new knowledge
    and the Practitioner uses it>"  It seems to me that the research model that
    requires researching everything that has been found before then doing a
    current practices study (possibly) which may indicate that times have
    changed from when those past studies were done and now it might be that what
    is going on indicates a different perspective--a study of the practitioners
    who are on the leading edge of things that work begs the chicken and egg
    question.  The practitioners are showing what works and doesn't
    work--creating the "proof" of  new  knowledge.  The scholar is often hot
    footing it to reflect what the new knowledge is...especially in
    Entrepreneurship...it seems that practice sometimes is out in front a long
    ways...am reminded of the Amazon model--no way that could have worked...good
    thing Bezos didn't know that.  And Starbucks?  Whoduthunk it?  And, what is
    the time frame?
    Would the Amazon model (whatever THAT is) work today?  Tomorrow?

    I'd almost rephrase the comment as "The Scholar observes the Practitioner(s)
    and tries to capture the current  state of the knowledge of the field in
    such a way that it might be useful to other practitioners and Scholars and
    students, (other stakeholders/shareholders)  and society:-) That capturing
    may require us to better specify the circumstances under which it will
    work...arghhhh...it keeps changing....exciting times.
    Harriet Stephenson
    Professor Emeritus
    Seattle University

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Entrepreneurship Division Listserv [mailto:ENTREP@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU]
    On Behalf Of Roxanne Zolin
    Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 12:49 PM
    To: ENTREP@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU
    Subject: Re: [ENTREP] For discussion: science-practice gap in
    entrepreneurship?

    Dear Jeff,

    My position, as presented at the last Academy of Management
    Scholar-Practitioner PDW, is that there is a gap between Scholar and
    Practitioner and it is quite normal and to be expected. The Scholar creates
    new knowledge and the Practitioner uses it.

    It is the same gap as you would find between the Farmer who grows wheat and
    the Family who eats bread.  And inbetween there is the distribution channel
    creating the right products and assortment for the end user.

    The challenge occurs when you expect the Scholar to provide a completely
    integrated and seamless distribution channel from production to consumption.
    That is a lot to ask.

    The consumer does not criticise the Farmer for not growing bread. Nor does
    the Farmer criticise the Family for not eating raw wheat. So why should we
    not understand this gap between Scholar and Practitioner?

    Thank you for raising this question because the more we discuss it the
    better we will understand the challenges involved for both Scholars and
    Practitioners and how to overcome them.

    Cheers,
    Roxanne

    Dr. Roxanne Zolin | Associate Professor | School of Management QUT Business
    School | Queensland University of Technology | www.qut.edu.au/business
    Phone: + 61 7 3138 5095 | Mobile:  0433 400 113 | Email: r.zolin@qut.edu.au
    | CRICOS No. 00213J

    ________________________________________
    From: Entrepreneurship Division Listserv <ENTREP@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU> on
    behalf of Jeff Pollack <jmpolla3@NCSU.EDU>
    Sent: Thursday, 12 November 2015 5:08 AM
    To: ENTREP@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU
    Subject: [ENTREP] For discussion: science-practice gap in entrepreneurship?

    Dear entrepreneurship colleagues,

    A few of my colleagues and I are working on a project exploring the
    potential science-practice gap in entrepreneurship. And, we would be
    grateful for your thoughts on the following two questions. We would be happy
    to summarize responses and email them to anyone interested.

    1. Is there a gap between science and practice in the domain of
    entrepreneurship-a disconnect between academic research and the practice of
    entrepreneurship? What empirical evidence do we have that such a gap might
    exist? Any references to articles quantifying this gap would be appreciated.

    2. If there is a gap, is this a bad thing? If so, why? If not, why not?

    Best regards, Jeff

    Jeff Pollack
    Assistant Professor
    Management, Innovation, and Entrepreneurship Department Poole College of
    Management NC State University
    2801 Founders Drive, Campus Box 7229
    jmpolla3@ncsu.edu

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  • 9.  For discussion: science-practice gap in entrepreneurship?

    Posted 11-12-2015 15:34
    The subject is very interesting but there is a gap in theory of practice to support what we have observed as scholars. My colleague and may have captured this in our paper based on practice based learning: creation of enterprise as site of practice which we have presented in EURAM in June this year
    Jane Chang
    PhD Entrepreneurship 
    Westminster Business School 
    London


    Sent from Samsung Mobile


    -------- Original message --------
    From: Chandra Mishra
    Date:12/11/2015 20:28 (GMT+00:00)
    Subject: Re: [ENTREP] For discussion: science-practice gap in entrepreneurship?

    For an entrepreneurship theory that is predictive and normative, that looks into the black box of the entrepreneurial process, and that bridges the entrepreneurship theory and practice, please see our book The Theory of Entrepreneurship, Palgrave and Macmillan.

    Chandra


    Sent from my iPad

    On Nov 12, 2015, at 3:10 PM, Roxanne Zolin <r.zolin@QUT.EDU.AU> wrote:

    Dear John,

    While research is historical, theory is predictive.

    As they say: "Nothing as practical as a good theory!"

    Per's book really addresses some of the issues of attempting vertical integration from producer to consumer:
    * Different goals
    * Different time frames
    * Different knowledge (theoretical versus concrete).

    That is why the consumer needs the "Retail distribution level" (Consultant or self-education) to  assemble the assortment of theory needed to address the problem and to actually apply it to the problem.

    In the short time frames of practice education provides a background of theory and frameworks, which may be helpful in making decisions on the fly.

    Alternatively for more important problems a Consultant could perform the analysis and application functions.

    As with many problem situations, bringing the relevant disciplines together  (Research and Practice) has the greatest potential for success if both parties can be suitable motivated towards solving the problem.  

    The Conusltant, while typically also having relevant industry experience, can also bring the relevant research knowledge to bear on  the problem.

    Cheers,
    Roxanne

    Dr. Roxanne Zolin | Associate Professor | School of Management
    QUT Business School | Queensland University of Technology | www.qut.edu.au/business
    Phone: + 61 7 3138 5095 | Mobile:  0433 400 113 | Email: r.zolin@qut.edu.au | CRICOS No. 00213J

    ________________________________________
    From: Entrepreneurship Division Listserv <ENTREP@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU> on behalf of Dr. John O'Dwyer <docjohn@STRATEGICADVISORY.BIZ>
    Sent: Thursday, 12 November 2015 7:16 PM
    To: ENTREP@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU
    Subject: Re: [ENTREP] For discussion: science-practice gap in entrepreneurship?

    Yes to Harriet,

    I'd almost rephrase the comment as "The Scholar observes the Practitioner(s)
    and tries to capture the current state of the knowledge of the field in such
    a way that it might be useful to other practitioners and Scholars and
    students, (other stakeholders/shareholders) and society:-) That capturing
    may require us to better specify the circumstances under which it will
    work...arghhhh...it keeps changing....exciting times.
    Harriet Stephenson
    Professor Emeritus
    Seattle University

    "The Scholar creates new knowledge and the Practitioner uses it" - total
    fucking bollocks!

    Research, by definition, is historical!




    -----Original Message-----
    From: Entrepreneurship Division Listserv [mailto:ENTREP@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU]
    On Behalf Of Stephenson, Harriet
    Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 12:45 AM
    To: ENTREP@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU
    Subject: Re: [ENTREP] For discussion: science-practice gap in
    entrepreneurship?

    Interesting analogies, Roxanne.

    Would like to add to your comment about "The Scholar creates new knowledge
    and the Practitioner uses it>"  It seems to me that the research model that
    requires researching everything that has been found before then doing a
    current practices study (possibly) which may indicate that times have
    changed from when those past studies were done and now it might be that what
    is going on indicates a different perspective--a study of the practitioners
    who are on the leading edge of things that work begs the chicken and egg
    question.  The practitioners are showing what works and doesn't
    work--creating the "proof" of  new  knowledge.  The scholar is often hot
    footing it to reflect what the new knowledge is...especially in
    Entrepreneurship...it seems that practice sometimes is out in front a long
    ways...am reminded of the Amazon model--no way that could have worked...good
    thing Bezos didn't know that.  And Starbucks?  Whoduthunk it?  And, what is
    the time frame?
    Would the Amazon model (whatever THAT is) work today?  Tomorrow?

    I'd almost rephrase the comment as "The Scholar observes the Practitioner(s)
    and tries to capture the current  state of the knowledge of the field in
    such a way that it might be useful to other practitioners and Scholars and
    students, (other stakeholders/shareholders)  and society:-) That capturing
    may require us to better specify the circumstances under which it will
    work...arghhhh...it keeps changing....exciting times.
    Harriet Stephenson
    Professor Emeritus
    Seattle University

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    On Behalf Of Roxanne Zolin
    Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 12:49 PM
    To: ENTREP@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU
    Subject: Re: [ENTREP] For discussion: science-practice gap in
    entrepreneurship?

    Dear Jeff,

    My position, as presented at the last Academy of Management
    Scholar-Practitioner PDW, is that there is a gap between Scholar and
    Practitioner and it is quite normal and to be expected. The Scholar creates
    new knowledge and the Practitioner uses it.

    It is the same gap as you would find between the Farmer who grows wheat and
    the Family who eats bread.  And inbetween there is the distribution channel
    creating the right products and assortment for the end user.

    The challenge occurs when you expect the Scholar to provide a completely
    integrated and seamless distribution channel from production to consumption.
    That is a lot to ask.

    The consumer does not criticise the Farmer for not growing bread. Nor does
    the Farmer criticise the Family for not eating raw wheat. So why should we
    not understand this gap between Scholar and Practitioner?

    Thank you for raising this question because the more we discuss it the
    better we will understand the challenges involved for both Scholars and
    Practitioners and how to overcome them.

    Cheers,
    Roxanne

    Dr. Roxanne Zolin | Associate Professor | School of Management QUT Business
    School | Queensland University of Technology | www.qut.edu.au/business
    Phone: + 61 7 3138 5095 | Mobile:  0433 400 113 | Email: r.zolin@qut.edu.au
    | CRICOS No. 00213J

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    Sent: Thursday, 12 November 2015 5:08 AM
    To: ENTREP@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU
    Subject: [ENTREP] For discussion: science-practice gap in entrepreneurship?

    Dear entrepreneurship colleagues,

    A few of my colleagues and I are working on a project exploring the
    potential science-practice gap in entrepreneurship. And, we would be
    grateful for your thoughts on the following two questions. We would be happy
    to summarize responses and email them to anyone interested.

    1. Is there a gap between science and practice in the domain of
    entrepreneurship-a disconnect between academic research and the practice of
    entrepreneurship? What empirical evidence do we have that such a gap might
    exist? Any references to articles quantifying this gap would be appreciated.

    2. If there is a gap, is this a bad thing? If so, why? If not, why not?

    Best regards, Jeff

    Jeff Pollack
    Assistant Professor
    Management, Innovation, and Entrepreneurship Department Poole College of
    Management NC State University
    2801 Founders Drive, Campus Box 7229
    jmpolla3@ncsu.edu

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  • 10.  For discussion: science-practice gap in entrepreneurship?

    Posted 11-12-2015 15:40
    How would practitioners answer the question? - or this isn't relevant?

    All the best,

    Thiago

    2015-11-12 18:17 GMT-02:00 Chandra Mishra <cmishra@fau.edu>:
    For an entrepreneurship theory that is predictive and normative, that looks into the black box of the entrepreneurial process, and that bridges the entrepreneurship theory and practice, please see our book The Theory of Entrepreneurship, Palgrave and Macmillan.

    Chandra


    Sent from my iPad

    On Nov 12, 2015, at 3:10 PM, Roxanne Zolin <r.zolin@QUT.EDU.AU> wrote:

    Dear John,

    While research is historical, theory is predictive.

    As they say: "Nothing as practical as a good theory!"

    Per's book really addresses some of the issues of attempting vertical integration from producer to consumer:
    * Different goals
    * Different time frames
    * Different knowledge (theoretical versus concrete).

    That is why the consumer needs the "Retail distribution level" (Consultant or self-education) to  assemble the assortment of theory needed to address the problem and to actually apply it to the problem.

    In the short time frames of practice education provides a background of theory and frameworks, which may be helpful in making decisions on the fly.

    Alternatively for more important problems a Consultant could perform the analysis and application functions.

    As with many problem situations, bringing the relevant disciplines together  (Research and Practice) has the greatest potential for success if both parties can be suitable motivated towards solving the problem.  

    The Conusltant, while typically also having relevant industry experience, can also bring the relevant research knowledge to bear on  the problem.

    Cheers,
    Roxanne

    Dr. Roxanne Zolin | Associate Professor | School of Management
    QUT Business School | Queensland University of Technology | www.qut.edu.au/business
    Phone: + 61 7 3138 5095 | Mobile:  0433 400 113 | Email: r.zolin@qut.edu.au | CRICOS No. 00213J

    ________________________________________
    From: Entrepreneurship Division Listserv <ENTREP@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU> on behalf of Dr. John O'Dwyer <docjohn@STRATEGICADVISORY.BIZ>
    Sent: Thursday, 12 November 2015 7:16 PM
    To: ENTREP@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU
    Subject: Re: [ENTREP] For discussion: science-practice gap in entrepreneurship?

    Yes to Harriet,

    I'd almost rephrase the comment as "The Scholar observes the Practitioner(s)
    and tries to capture the current state of the knowledge of the field in such
    a way that it might be useful to other practitioners and Scholars and
    students, (other stakeholders/shareholders) and society:-) That capturing
    may require us to better specify the circumstances under which it will
    work...arghhhh...it keeps changing....exciting times.
    Harriet Stephenson
    Professor Emeritus
    Seattle University

    "The Scholar creates new knowledge and the Practitioner uses it" - total
    fucking bollocks!

    Research, by definition, is historical!




    -----Original Message-----
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    On Behalf Of Stephenson, Harriet
    Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 12:45 AM
    To: ENTREP@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU
    Subject: Re: [ENTREP] For discussion: science-practice gap in
    entrepreneurship?

    Interesting analogies, Roxanne.

    Would like to add to your comment about "The Scholar creates new knowledge
    and the Practitioner uses it>"  It seems to me that the research model that
    requires researching everything that has been found before then doing a
    current practices study (possibly) which may indicate that times have
    changed from when those past studies were done and now it might be that what
    is going on indicates a different perspective--a study of the practitioners
    who are on the leading edge of things that work begs the chicken and egg
    question.  The practitioners are showing what works and doesn't
    work--creating the "proof" of  new  knowledge.  The scholar is often hot
    footing it to reflect what the new knowledge is...especially in
    Entrepreneurship...it seems that practice sometimes is out in front a long
    ways...am reminded of the Amazon model--no way that could have worked...good
    thing Bezos didn't know that.  And Starbucks?  Whoduthunk it?  And, what is
    the time frame?
    Would the Amazon model (whatever THAT is) work today?  Tomorrow?

    I'd almost rephrase the comment as "The Scholar observes the Practitioner(s)
    and tries to capture the current  state of the knowledge of the field in
    such a way that it might be useful to other practitioners and Scholars and
    students, (other stakeholders/shareholders)  and society:-) That capturing
    may require us to better specify the circumstances under which it will
    work...arghhhh...it keeps changing....exciting times.
    Harriet Stephenson
    Professor Emeritus
    Seattle University

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Entrepreneurship Division Listserv [mailto:ENTREP@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU]
    On Behalf Of Roxanne Zolin
    Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 12:49 PM
    To: ENTREP@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU
    Subject: Re: [ENTREP] For discussion: science-practice gap in
    entrepreneurship?

    Dear Jeff,

    My position, as presented at the last Academy of Management
    Scholar-Practitioner PDW, is that there is a gap between Scholar and
    Practitioner and it is quite normal and to be expected. The Scholar creates
    new knowledge and the Practitioner uses it.

    It is the same gap as you would find between the Farmer who grows wheat and
    the Family who eats bread.  And inbetween there is the distribution channel
    creating the right products and assortment for the end user.

    The challenge occurs when you expect the Scholar to provide a completely
    integrated and seamless distribution channel from production to consumption.
    That is a lot to ask.

    The consumer does not criticise the Farmer for not growing bread. Nor does
    the Farmer criticise the Family for not eating raw wheat. So why should we
    not understand this gap between Scholar and Practitioner?

    Thank you for raising this question because the more we discuss it the
    better we will understand the challenges involved for both Scholars and
    Practitioners and how to overcome them.

    Cheers,
    Roxanne

    Dr. Roxanne Zolin | Associate Professor | School of Management QUT Business
    School | Queensland University of Technology | www.qut.edu.au/business
    Phone: + 61 7 3138 5095 | Mobile:  0433 400 113 | Email: r.zolin@qut.edu.au
    | CRICOS No. 00213J

    ________________________________________
    From: Entrepreneurship Division Listserv <ENTREP@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU> on
    behalf of Jeff Pollack <jmpolla3@NCSU.EDU>
    Sent: Thursday, 12 November 2015 5:08 AM
    To: ENTREP@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU
    Subject: [ENTREP] For discussion: science-practice gap in entrepreneurship?

    Dear entrepreneurship colleagues,

    A few of my colleagues and I are working on a project exploring the
    potential science-practice gap in entrepreneurship. And, we would be
    grateful for your thoughts on the following two questions. We would be happy
    to summarize responses and email them to anyone interested.

    1. Is there a gap between science and practice in the domain of
    entrepreneurship-a disconnect between academic research and the practice of
    entrepreneurship? What empirical evidence do we have that such a gap might
    exist? Any references to articles quantifying this gap would be appreciated.

    2. If there is a gap, is this a bad thing? If so, why? If not, why not?

    Best regards, Jeff

    Jeff Pollack
    Assistant Professor
    Management, Innovation, and Entrepreneurship Department Poole College of
    Management NC State University
    2801 Founders Drive, Campus Box 7229
    jmpolla3@ncsu.edu

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  • 11.  For discussion: science-practice gap in entrepreneurship?

    Posted 11-12-2015 16:17
    Hi This go
    We work closely with entrepreneurs look into the entrepreneurial processes and discussed. What we found out that enterprise creation seemed to be site or place. As academic we observed and think of framework ..we are looking ways to produce entrepreneurship education and we discover that working with established entrepreneurs are more experience in terms of practice. Just doctor the site of practice is the hospital working very closely with consultants. Like student engineer work closely with chartered engineers using the construction sites as practise space.


    Sent from Samsung Mobile


    -------- Original message --------
    From: Thiago de Carvalho
    Date:12/11/2015 21:03 (GMT+00:00)
    Subject: Re: [ENTREP] For discussion: science-practice gap in entrepreneurship?

    How would practitioners answer the question? - or this isn't relevant?

    All the best,

    Thiago

    2015-11-12 18:17 GMT-02:00 Chandra Mishra <cmishra@fau.edu>:
    For an entrepreneurship theory that is predictive and normative, that looks into the black box of the entrepreneurial process, and that bridges the entrepreneurship theory and practice, please see our book The Theory of Entrepreneurship, Palgrave and Macmillan.

    Chandra


    Sent from my iPad

    On Nov 12, 2015, at 3:10 PM, Roxanne Zolin <r.zolin@QUT.EDU.AU> wrote:

    Dear John,

    While research is historical, theory is predictive.

    As they say: "Nothing as practical as a good theory!"

    Per's book really addresses some of the issues of attempting vertical integration from producer to consumer:
    * Different goals
    * Different time frames
    * Different knowledge (theoretical versus concrete).

    That is why the consumer needs the "Retail distribution level" (Consultant or self-education) to  assemble the assortment of theory needed to address the problem and to actually apply it to the problem.

    In the short time frames of practice education provides a background of theory and frameworks, which may be helpful in making decisions on the fly.

    Alternatively for more important problems a Consultant could perform the analysis and application functions.

    As with many problem situations, bringing the relevant disciplines together  (Research and Practice) has the greatest potential for success if both parties can be suitable motivated towards solving the problem.  

    The Conusltant, while typically also having relevant industry experience, can also bring the relevant research knowledge to bear on  the problem.

    Cheers,
    Roxanne

    Dr. Roxanne Zolin | Associate Professor | School of Management
    QUT Business School | Queensland University of Technology | www.qut.edu.au/business
    Phone: + 61 7 3138 5095 | Mobile:  0433 400 113 | Email: r.zolin@qut.edu.au | CRICOS No. 00213J

    ________________________________________
    From: Entrepreneurship Division Listserv <ENTREP@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU> on behalf of Dr. John O'Dwyer <docjohn@STRATEGICADVISORY.BIZ>
    Sent: Thursday, 12 November 2015 7:16 PM
    To: ENTREP@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU
    Subject: Re: [ENTREP] For discussion: science-practice gap in entrepreneurship?

    Yes to Harriet,

    I'd almost rephrase the comment as "The Scholar observes the Practitioner(s)
    and tries to capture the current state of the knowledge of the field in such
    a way that it might be useful to other practitioners and Scholars and
    students, (other stakeholders/shareholders) and society:-) That capturing
    may require us to better specify the circumstances under which it will
    work...arghhhh...it keeps changing....exciting times.
    Harriet Stephenson
    Professor Emeritus
    Seattle University

    "The Scholar creates new knowledge and the Practitioner uses it" - total
    fucking bollocks!

    Research, by definition, is historical!




    -----Original Message-----
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    On Behalf Of Stephenson, Harriet
    Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 12:45 AM
    To: ENTREP@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU
    Subject: Re: [ENTREP] For discussion: science-practice gap in
    entrepreneurship?

    Interesting analogies, Roxanne.

    Would like to add to your comment about "The Scholar creates new knowledge
    and the Practitioner uses it>"  It seems to me that the research model that
    requires researching everything that has been found before then doing a
    current practices study (possibly) which may indicate that times have
    changed from when those past studies were done and now it might be that what
    is going on indicates a different perspective--a study of the practitioners
    who are on the leading edge of things that work begs the chicken and egg
    question.  The practitioners are showing what works and doesn't
    work--creating the "proof" of  new  knowledge.  The scholar is often hot
    footing it to reflect what the new knowledge is...especially in
    Entrepreneurship...it seems that practice sometimes is out in front a long
    ways...am reminded of the Amazon model--no way that could have worked...good
    thing Bezos didn't know that.  And Starbucks?  Whoduthunk it?  And, what is
    the time frame?
    Would the Amazon model (whatever THAT is) work today?  Tomorrow?

    I'd almost rephrase the comment as "The Scholar observes the Practitioner(s)
    and tries to capture the current  state of the knowledge of the field in
    such a way that it might be useful to other practitioners and Scholars and
    students, (other stakeholders/shareholders)  and society:-) That capturing
    may require us to better specify the circumstances under which it will
    work...arghhhh...it keeps changing....exciting times.
    Harriet Stephenson
    Professor Emeritus
    Seattle University

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Entrepreneurship Division Listserv [mailto:ENTREP@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU]
    On Behalf Of Roxanne Zolin
    Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 12:49 PM
    To: ENTREP@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU
    Subject: Re: [ENTREP] For discussion: science-practice gap in
    entrepreneurship?

    Dear Jeff,

    My position, as presented at the last Academy of Management
    Scholar-Practitioner PDW, is that there is a gap between Scholar and
    Practitioner and it is quite normal and to be expected. The Scholar creates
    new knowledge and the Practitioner uses it.

    It is the same gap as you would find between the Farmer who grows wheat and
    the Family who eats bread.  And inbetween there is the distribution channel
    creating the right products and assortment for the end user.

    The challenge occurs when you expect the Scholar to provide a completely
    integrated and seamless distribution channel from production to consumption.
    That is a lot to ask.

    The consumer does not criticise the Farmer for not growing bread. Nor does
    the Farmer criticise the Family for not eating raw wheat. So why should we
    not understand this gap between Scholar and Practitioner?

    Thank you for raising this question because the more we discuss it the
    better we will understand the challenges involved for both Scholars and
    Practitioners and how to overcome them.

    Cheers,
    Roxanne

    Dr. Roxanne Zolin | Associate Professor | School of Management QUT Business
    School | Queensland University of Technology | www.qut.edu.au/business
    Phone: + 61 7 3138 5095 | Mobile:  0433 400 113 | Email: r.zolin@qut.edu.au
    | CRICOS No. 00213J

    ________________________________________
    From: Entrepreneurship Division Listserv <ENTREP@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU> on
    behalf of Jeff Pollack <jmpolla3@NCSU.EDU>
    Sent: Thursday, 12 November 2015 5:08 AM
    To: ENTREP@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU
    Subject: [ENTREP] For discussion: science-practice gap in entrepreneurship?

    Dear entrepreneurship colleagues,

    A few of my colleagues and I are working on a project exploring the
    potential science-practice gap in entrepreneurship. And, we would be
    grateful for your thoughts on the following two questions. We would be happy
    to summarize responses and email them to anyone interested.

    1. Is there a gap between science and practice in the domain of
    entrepreneurship-a disconnect between academic research and the practice of
    entrepreneurship? What empirical evidence do we have that such a gap might
    exist? Any references to articles quantifying this gap would be appreciated.

    2. If there is a gap, is this a bad thing? If so, why? If not, why not?

    Best regards, Jeff

    Jeff Pollack
    Assistant Professor
    Management, Innovation, and Entrepreneurship Department Poole College of
    Management NC State University
    2801 Founders Drive, Campus Box 7229
    jmpolla3@ncsu.edu

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  • 12.  RES: [ENTREP] For discussion: science-practice gap in entrepreneurship?

    Posted 11-12-2015 04:51
    Roxanne, allow me to suggest more food for thought.

    If we think about the individual work of the researcher, then you are right,
    we only contribute with the wheat. But if we think about the collective work
    of scholars, we contribute, together, with the bread. Each piece of
    research, exposed through published papers, must work together to allow us a
    better understanding on specific fields of study.

    It seems to me that the science-practice gap is not because we are producing
    wheat, but the bread we are producing is not reaching the family. Maybe the
    family can't access our bread or the bread is not tasteful for the family.

    I think the real gap is within our field. In one hand, while life sciences
    are producing drugs, new materials and technologies for the industry, we are
    producing very little for very few consulting companies in terms of
    effective artifacts and tools for management (and for entrepreneurs). On the
    other hand, it is quite impossible to put a small company in a lab,
    isolating the variables to understand exactly why a startup becomes
    successful. Small businesses are surrounded by so many distinct variables
    that affects the overall dynamics of the company that what worked for
    Starbucks and Amazon probably will not work for other similar companies.
    That's why each case is a distinct case and it is not expected in our field
    to generate theories based on empirical facts. In large companies, the
    scenario is distinct because large companies have an internal structure that
    are similar among them, so it's easier to isolate and generate knowledge and
    to propose tools that consulting companies can generalize when applying them
    to large companies.

    Here in Brazil, entrepreneurship as a field of study is growing with new
    researchers publishing about entrepreneurship on their areas: Economists,
    psychologists, sociologists, etc, but they are producing papers, not
    knowledge. This is another discussion topic.

    Marcos Hashimoto
    Faccamp - Brazil

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    nome de Stephenson, Harriet
    Enviada em: quinta-feira, 12 de novembro de 2015 03:45
    Para: ENTREP@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU
    Assunto: Re: [ENTREP] For discussion: science-practice gap in
    entrepreneurship?

    Interesting analogies, Roxanne.

    Would like to add to your comment about "The Scholar creates new knowledge
    and the Practitioner uses it>" It seems to me that the research model that
    requires researching everything that has been found before then doing a
    current practices study (possibly) which may indicate that times have
    changed from when those past studies were done and now it might be that what
    is going on indicates a different perspective--a study of the practitioners
    who are on the leading edge of things that work begs the chicken and egg
    question. The practitioners are showing what works and doesn't
    work--creating the "proof" of new knowledge. The scholar is often hot
    footing it to reflect what the new knowledge is...especially in
    Entrepreneurship...it seems that practice sometimes is out in front a long
    ways...am reminded of the Amazon model--no way that could have worked...good
    thing Bezos didn't know that. And Starbucks? Whoduthunk it? And, what is
    the time frame?
    Would the Amazon model (whatever THAT is) work today? Tomorrow?

    I'd almost rephrase the comment as "The Scholar observes the Practitioner(s)
    and tries to capture the current state of the knowledge of the field in
    such a way that it might be useful to other practitioners and Scholars and
    students, (other stakeholders/shareholders) and society:-) That capturing
    may require us to better specify the circumstances under which it will
    work...arghhhh...it keeps changing....exciting times.
    Harriet Stephenson
    Professor Emeritus
    Seattle University

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    Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 12:49 PM
    To: ENTREP@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU
    Subject: Re: [ENTREP] For discussion: science-practice gap in
    entrepreneurship?

    Dear Jeff,

    My position, as presented at the last Academy of Management
    Scholar-Practitioner PDW, is that there is a gap between Scholar and
    Practitioner and it is quite normal and to be expected. The Scholar creates
    new knowledge and the Practitioner uses it.

    It is the same gap as you would find between the Farmer who grows wheat and
    the Family who eats bread. And inbetween there is the distribution channel
    creating the right products and assortment for the end user.

    The challenge occurs when you expect the Scholar to provide a completely
    integrated and seamless distribution channel from production to consumption.
    That is a lot to ask.

    The consumer does not criticise the Farmer for not growing bread. Nor does
    the Farmer criticise the Family for not eating raw wheat. So why should we
    not understand this gap between Scholar and Practitioner?

    Thank you for raising this question because the more we discuss it the
    better we will understand the challenges involved for both Scholars and
    Practitioners and how to overcome them.

    Cheers,
    Roxanne

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    Dear entrepreneurship colleagues,

    A few of my colleagues and I are working on a project exploring the
    potential science-practice gap in entrepreneurship. And, we would be
    grateful for your thoughts on the following two questions. We would be happy
    to summarize responses and email them to anyone interested.

    1. Is there a gap between science and practice in the domain of
    entrepreneurship-a disconnect between academic research and the practice of
    entrepreneurship? What empirical evidence do we have that such a gap might
    exist? Any references to articles quantifying this gap would be appreciated.

    2. If there is a gap, is this a bad thing? If so, why? If not, why not?

    Best regards, Jeff

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    Assistant Professor
    Management, Innovation, and Entrepreneurship Department Poole College of
    Management NC State University
    2801 Founders Drive, Campus Box 7229
    jmpolla3@ncsu.edu

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  • 13.  For discussion: science-practice gap in entrepreneurship?

    Posted 11-12-2015 10:06
    I agree with Harriet. The Scholar observes the Practitioner(s) and tries to capture the current  state of the knowledge of the field in such a way that it might be useful to other practitioners and Scholars and students, (other stakeholders/shareholders)  and society.
     
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    From: "Stephenson, Harriet" <HARRIET@SEATTLEU.EDU>
    To: ENTREP@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU
    Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 11:45 PM
    Subject: Re: For discussion: science-practice gap in entrepreneurship?

    Interesting analogies, Roxanne. 

    Would like to add to your comment about "The Scholar creates new knowledge and the Practitioner uses it>"  It seems to me that the research model that requires researching everything that has been found before then doing a current practices study (possibly) which may indicate that times have changed from when those past studies were done and now it might be that what is going on indicates a different perspective--a study of the practitioners who are on the leading edge of things that work begs the chicken and egg question.  The practitioners are showing what works and doesn't work--creating the "proof" of  new  knowledge.  The scholar is often hot footing it to reflect what the new knowledge is...especially in Entrepreneurship...it seems that practice sometimes is out in front a long ways...am reminded of the Amazon model--no way that could have worked...good thing Bezos didn't know that.  And Starbucks?  Whoduthunk it?  And, what is the time frame?
    Would the Amazon model (whatever THAT is) work today?  Tomorrow? 

    I'd almost rephrase the comment as "The Scholar observes the Practitioner(s) and tries to capture the current  state of the knowledge of the field in such a way that it might be useful to other practitioners and Scholars and students, (other stakeholders/shareholders)  and society:-) That capturing may require us to better specify the circumstances under which it will work...arghhhh...it keeps changing....exciting times.
    Harriet Stephenson
    Professor Emeritus
    Seattle University

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    From: Entrepreneurship Division Listserv [mailto:ENTREP@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU] On Behalf Of Roxanne Zolin
    Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 12:49 PM
    To: ENTREP@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU
    Subject: Re: [ENTREP] For discussion: science-practice gap in entrepreneurship?

    Dear Jeff,

    My position, as presented at the last Academy of Management Scholar-Practitioner PDW, is that there is a gap between Scholar and Practitioner and it is quite normal and to be expected. The Scholar creates new knowledge and the Practitioner uses it.

    It is the same gap as you would find between the Farmer who grows wheat and the Family who eats bread.  And inbetween there is the distribution channel creating the right products and assortment for the end user.

    The challenge occurs when you expect the Scholar to provide a completely integrated and seamless distribution channel from production to consumption. That is a lot to ask. 

    The consumer does not criticise the Farmer for not growing bread. Nor does the Farmer criticise the Family for not eating raw wheat. So why should we not understand this gap between Scholar and Practitioner?

    Thank you for raising this question because the more we discuss it the better we will understand the challenges involved for both Scholars and Practitioners and how to overcome them.

    Cheers,
    Roxanne

    Dr. Roxanne Zolin | Associate Professor | School of Management QUT Business School | Queensland University of Technology | www.qut.edu.au/business
    Phone: + 61 7 3138 5095 | Mobile:  0433 400 113 | Email: r.zolin@qut.edu.au | CRICOS No. 00213J
     
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    To: ENTREP@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU
    Subject: [ENTREP] For discussion: science-practice gap in entrepreneurship?

    Dear entrepreneurship colleagues,

    A few of my colleagues and I are working on a project exploring the potential science-practice gap in entrepreneurship. And, we would be grateful for your thoughts on the following two questions. We would be happy to summarize responses and email them to anyone interested.

    1. Is there a gap between science and practice in the domain of entrepreneurship-a disconnect between academic research and the practice of entrepreneurship? What empirical evidence do we have that such a gap might exist? Any references to articles quantifying this gap would be appreciated.

    2. If there is a gap, is this a bad thing? If so, why? If not, why not?

    Best regards, Jeff

    Jeff Pollack
    Assistant Professor
    Management, Innovation, and Entrepreneurship Department Poole College of Management NC State University
    2801 Founders Drive, Campus Box 7229
    jmpolla3@ncsu.edu

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  • 14.  For discussion: science-practice gap in entrepreneurship?

    Posted 11-12-2015 01:39
    Dear Roxanne,

    Analogies are, of course, never perfect. The issue may not be so much as holding the farmer responsible for not growing bread or the family not eating raw wheat. It may have more to do with the fact that the farmer grows wheat that is not processable into an edible product and, of course, the family eating half baked stuff that causes illness.

    In a field as 'professional' as Management, the scholar-practitioner linkage has as much to do with problem identification as with the research methodology. Much of our heritage is from social sciences leaning on primary data collection and analysis. A greater attention on evidence based research, as in medical field, would seem in order.

    Cheers,
    Subash








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    Collegiate Professor 
    The Graduate School 
    University of Maryland University College 
    Tel: 240-684-2478, Fax: 240-684-2404 


    On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 3:37 PM, Roxanne Zolin <r.zolin@qut.edu.au> wrote:
    Dear Jeff,

    My position, as presented at the last Academy of Management Scholar-Practitioner PDW, is that there is a gap between Scholar and Practitioner and it is quite normal and to be expected. The Scholar creates new knowledge and the Practitioner uses it.

    It is the same gap as you would find between the Farmer who grows wheat and the Family who eats bread.  And inbetween there is the distribution channel creating the right products and assortment for the end user.

    The challenge occurs when you expect the Scholar to provide a completely integrated and seamless distribution channel from production to consumption. That is a lot to ask.

    The consumer does not criticise the Farmer for not growing bread. Nor does the Farmer criticise the Family for not eating raw wheat. So why should we not understand this gap between Scholar and Practitioner?

    Thank you for raising this question because the more we discuss it the better we will understand the challenges involved for both Scholars and Practitioners and how to overcome them.

    Cheers,
    Roxanne

    Dr. Roxanne Zolin | Associate Professor | School of Management
    QUT Business School | Queensland University of Technology | www.qut.edu.au/business
    Phone: + 61 7 3138 5095 | Mobile:  0433 400 113 | Email: r.zolin@qut.edu.au | CRICOS No. 00213J

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    Subject: [ENTREP] For discussion: science-practice gap in entrepreneurship?

    Dear entrepreneurship colleagues,

    A few of my colleagues and I are working on a project exploring the potential science-practice gap in entrepreneurship. And, we would be grateful for your thoughts on the following two questions. We would be happy to summarize responses and email them to anyone interested.

    1. Is there a gap between science and practice in the domain of entrepreneurship-a disconnect between academic research and the practice of entrepreneurship? What empirical evidence do we have that such a gap might exist? Any references to articles quantifying this gap would be appreciated.

    2. If there is a gap, is this a bad thing? If so, why? If not, why not?

    Best regards, Jeff

    Jeff Pollack
    Assistant Professor
    Management, Innovation, and Entrepreneurship Department
    Poole College of Management
    NC State University
    2801 Founders Drive, Campus Box 7229
    jmpolla3@ncsu.edu

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