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  • 1.  What is the number of students taking entrepreneurship courses?

    Posted 05-14-2010 19:10

    Do any of you know how many American students take a college-level (or higher) entrepreneurship course in their lifetime?

     

    Could you answer the same question for other English speaking countries ?

     

    Do you know where I could look?  

     

    Thanks

    Geoff Archer, PhD

    Associate Professor

    & Director of the Eric C. Douglass Centre for Entrepreneurial Studies

    Royal Roads University

    Victoria, BC Canada

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  • 2.  What is the number of students taking entrepreneurship courses?

    Posted 05-15-2010 20:50
    I think most intelligent entrepreneurs know that if you need to take an academic course in Entrepreneurship you aren't one.

    Hope for the USA? "If something is unsustainable, it will stop."
    --Herb Stein, an economic adviser to Richard Nixon
    Romie F. Littrell, BA, MBA,PhD, FIAIR, An fánaí fiáin
    AUT Business School N.Z., romie.littrell@aut.ac.nz
    http://www.romielittrellpubs.homestead.com/
    Facilitator, Leadership & Management in Sub-Sahara Africa Conferences
    Contents copyright Romie F. Littrell

    --- On Sat, 15/5/10, Geoff Archer <Geoff.Archer@ROYALROADS.CA> wrote:

    From: Geoff Archer <Geoff.Archer@ROYALROADS.CA>
    Subject: [ENTREP] What is the number of students taking entrepreneurship courses?
    To: ENTREP@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU
    Date: Saturday, 15 May, 2010, 11:09

    Do any of you know how many American students take a college-level (or higher) entrepreneurship course in their lifetime?

     

    Could you answer the same question for other English speaking countries ?

     

    Do you know where I could look?  

     

    Thanks

    Geoff Archer, PhD

    Associate Professor

    & Director of the Eric C. Douglass Centre for Entrepreneurial Studies

    Royal Roads University

    Victoria, BC Canada

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  • 3.  What is the number of students taking entrepreneurship courses?

    Posted 05-20-2010 19:22
    This is an interesting topic. Entrepreneurship ability can be presented similar to ability to fly an aircraft. Some are naturally born pilots, while others will never be pilots. For these groups training will not help.
     
    However, what about the entrepreneurs (or pilots) in between. I think that entrepreneurship training is as important as pilot training. Can you imagine if we had people flying planes everywhere with no training.
     
    I think that the real question is how do we train entrepreneurs both the "ground school" and "in cockpit" (also known as dynamic) components.
     
    If anyone has any information relating to their experiences on the dynamic component of entrepreneurship education (i.e. the "in cockpit" part), please let me know.
     
    Bill
     
    Dr. Želimir William Todorovic
    Guest Editor, Journal of Entrepreneurship and Small Business
     
    Richard T. Doermer School of Business and Management
    Indiana - Purdue University, Fort Wayne
    2101 E. Coliseum Blvd.
    Fort Wayne, Indiana, 46805-1499
    Web:http://users.ipfw.edu/todorovz/
    (260) 481 6940
    ----- Original Message -----
    Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2010 8:50 PM
    Subject: Re: [ENTREP] What is the number of students taking entrepreneurship courses?

    I think most intelligent entrepreneurs know that if you need to take an academic course in Entrepreneurship you aren't one.

    Hope for the USA? "If something is unsustainable, it will stop."
    --Herb Stein, an economic adviser to Richard Nixon
    Romie F. Littrell, BA, MBA,PhD, FIAIR, An fánaí fiáin
    AUT Business School N.Z., romie.littrell@aut.ac.nz
    http://www.romielittrellpubs.homestead.com/
    Facilitator, Leadership & Management in Sub-Sahara Africa Conferences
    Contents copyright Romie F. Littrell

    --- On Sat, 15/5/10, Geoff Archer <Geoff.Archer@ROYALROADS.CA> wrote:

    From: Geoff Archer <Geoff.Archer@ROYALROADS.CA>
    Subject: [ENTREP] What is the number of students taking entrepreneurship courses?
    To: ENTREP@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU
    Date: Saturday, 15 May, 2010, 11:09

    Do any of you know how many American students take a college-level (or higher) entrepreneurship course in their lifetime?

     

    Could you answer the same question for other English speaking countries ?

     

    Do you know where I could look?  

     

    Thanks

    Geoff Archer, PhD

    Associate Professor

    & Director of the Eric C. Douglass Centre for Entrepreneurial Studies

    Royal Roads University

    Victoria, BC Canada

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  • 4.  What is the number of students taking entrepreneurship courses?

    Posted 05-21-2010 04:00

    I wonder if we are missing a crucial point here.

     

     On one hand there are probably some entrepreneurial qualities, or attitudes, that can't be taught. But most new businesses fail, so having these entrepreneurial essences, (if they exist) is hardly a guarantee of success. But we can teach, and importantly theorise, better ways of starting a business. I suspect that knowing how is much more important than being a born "pilot".

     

    Sincerely

    <st1:givenname w:st="on">Alistair</st1:givenname>

    <st2:personname w:st="on"><st1:title w:st="on">Professor</st1:title> <st1:givenname w:st="on">Alistair</st1:givenname> <st1:middlename w:st="on">R</st1:middlename> <st1:sn w:st="on">Anderson</st1:sn></st2:personname>

    Editor of Entrepreneurship & Regional Development; Director of the Centre for Entrepreneurship


    From: <st1:givenname w:st="on">Entrepreneurship</st1:givenname> <st1:sn w:st="on">Division Listserv</st1:sn> [mailto:ENTREP@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU] On Behalf Of <st2:personname w:st="on"><st1:title w:st="on">Dr.</st1:title> <st1:givenname w:st="on">Bill</st1:givenname> <st1:sn w:st="on">Todorovic</st1:sn></st2:personname>
    Sent: 21 May 2010 00:22
    To: ENTREP@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU
    Subject: Re: [ENTREP] What is the number of students taking entrepreneurship courses?

     

    This is an interesting topic. Entrepreneurship ability can be presented similar to ability to fly an aircraft. Some are naturally born pilots, while others will never be pilots. For these groups training will not help.

     

    However, what about the entrepreneurs (or pilots) in between. I think that entrepreneurship training is as important as pilot training. Can you imagine if we had people flying planes everywhere with no training.

     

    I think that the real question is how do we train entrepreneurs both the "ground school" and "in cockpit" (also known as dynamic) components.

     

    If anyone has any information relating to their experiences on the dynamic component of entrepreneurship education (i.e. the "in cockpit" part), please let me know.

     

    <st1:givenname w:st="on">Bill</st1:givenname>

     

    Dr. Želimir <st2:personname w:st="on"><st1:givenname w:st="on">William</st1:givenname> <st1:sn w:st="on"> Todorovic</st1:sn></st2:personname>
    Guest Editor, Journal of Entrepreneurship and Small Business
     
    <st2:placename w:st="on">Richard</st2:placename> <st2:placename w:st="on">T.</st2:placename> <st2:placename w:st="on">Doermer</st2:placename> <st2:placetype w:st="on">School</st2:placetype> of Business and Management
    <st1:sn w:st="on"><st2:state w:st="on">Indiana</st2:state></st1:sn> - <st2:placename w:st="on"> Purdue</st2:placename> <st2:placetype w:st="on">University</st2:placetype>, <st2:city w:st="on"> <st2:place w:st="on">Fort Wayne</st2:place></st2:city>
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    Web:http://users.ipfw.edu/todorovz/
    (260) 481 6940

    ----- Original Message -----

    Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2010 8:50 PM

    Subject: Re: [ENTREP] What is the number of students taking entrepreneurship courses?

     

    I think most intelligent entrepreneurs know that if you need to take an academic course in Entrepreneurship you aren't one.

    <st1:givenname w:st="on">Hope</st1:givenname> for the <st2:country-region w:st="on"><st2:place w:st="on">USA</st2:place></st2:country-region>? "If something is unsustainable, it will stop."
    --Herb Stein, an economic adviser to <st2:personname w:st="on"><st1:givenname w:st="on">Richard</st1:givenname> <st1:sn w:st="on">Nixon</st1:sn></st2:personname>

    <st1:givenname w:st="on">Romie</st1:givenname> <st1:middlename w:st="on">F.</st1:middlename> <st1:sn w:st="on">Littrell</st1:sn>, BA, <st2:personname w:st="on"><st1:givenname w:st="on">MBA</st1:givenname>,<st1:namesuffix w:st="on">PhD</st1:namesuffix></st2:personname>, FIAIR, An fánaí fiáin
    AUT Business School N.Z., romie.littrell@aut.ac.nz
    http://www.romielittrellpubs.homestead.com/
    Facilitator, Leadership & Management in Sub-Sahara Africa Conferences
    Contents copyright Romie F. Littrell

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    From: <st2:personname w:st="on"><st1:givenname w:st="on">Geoff</st1:givenname> <st1:sn w:st="on"> Archer</st1:sn></st2:personname> <Geoff.Archer@ROYALROADS.CA>
    Subject: [ENTREP] What is the number of students taking entrepreneurship courses?
    To: ENTREP@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU
    Date: Saturday, 15 May, 2010, 11:09

    Do any of you know how many American students take a college-level (or higher) entrepreneurship course in their lifetime?

     

    Could you answer the same question for other English speaking countries ?

     

    Do you know where I could look?  

     

    Thanks

    <st2:personname w:st="on"><st1:givenname w:st="on">Geoff</st1:givenname> <st1:sn w:st="on">Archer</st1:sn>, <st1:namesuffix w:st="on">PhD</st1:namesuffix></st2:personname>

    Associate Professor

    & Director of the <st2:personname w:st="on"><st1:givenname w:st="on">Eric</st1:givenname> <st1:middlename w:st="on"> C.</st1:middlename> <st1:sn w:st="on">Douglass</st1:sn></st2:personname> Centre for Entrepreneurial Studies

    <st2:place w:st="on"><st2:placename w:st="on">Royal</st2:placename> <st2:placename w:st="on">Roads</st2:placename> <st2:placetype w:st="on">University</st2:placetype></st2:place>

    <st2:place w:st="on"><st2:city w:st="on">Victoria</st2:city>, <st2:state w:st="on">BC</st2:state> <st2:country-region w:st="on">Canada</st2:country-region></st2:place>

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  • 5.  What is the number of students taking entrepreneurship courses?

    Posted 05-21-2010 22:59
    Just as we know that all leaders are not borne leaders, we have to assume the same applies to entrepreneurs. I would believe entrepreneurs come forward when the time is right much as leaders do, and of course some may not be entrepreneurs at all but rather intrapreneurs; and then again, the moment may never arise. All we can do is prepare those that have an interest and then wait and see if those interests erupt into a passion as they see the opportunities arise before them.
     
    Aaron Cuevas
     

    Date: Fri, 21 May 2010 08:59:58 +0100
    From: a.r.anderson@RGU.AC.UK
    Subject: Re: [ENTREP] What is the number of students taking entrepreneurship courses?
    To: ENTREP@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU

    I wonder if we are missing a crucial point here.

     

     On one hand there are probably some entrepreneurial qualities, or attitudes, that can't be taught. But most new businesses fail, so having these entrepreneurial essences, (if they exist) is hardly a guarantee of success. But we can teach, and importantly theorise, better ways of starting a business. I suspect that knowing how is much more important than being a born "pilot".

     

    Sincerely
    Alistair
    Professor Alistair R Anderson
    Editor of Entrepreneurship & Regional Development; Director of the Centre for Entrepreneurship

    From: Entrepreneurship Division Listserv [mailto:ENTREP@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU] On Behalf Of Dr. Bill Todorovic
    Sent: 21 May 2010 00:22
    To: ENTREP@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU
    Subject: Re: [ENTREP] What is the number of students taking entrepreneurship courses?

     

    This is an interesting topic. Entrepreneurship ability can be presented similar to ability to fly an aircraft. Some are naturally born pilots, while others will never be pilots. For these groups training will not help.

     

    However, what about the entrepreneurs (or pilots) in between. I think that entrepreneurship training is as important as pilot training. Can you imagine if we had people flying planes everywhere with no training.

     

    I think that the real question is how do we train entrepreneurs both the "ground school" and "in cockpit" (also known as dynamic) components.

     

    If anyone has any information relating to their experiences on the dynamic component of entrepreneurship education (i.e. the "in cockpit" part), please let me know.

     

    Bill

     

    Dr. Želimir William Todorovic
    Guest Editor, Journal of Entrepreneurship and Small Business
     
    Richard T. Doermer School of Business and Management
    Indiana - Purdue University, Fort Wayne
    2101 E. Coliseum Blvd.
    Fort Wayne, Indiana, 46805-1499
    Web:http://users.ipfw.edu/todorovz/
    (260) 481 6940

    ----- Original Message -----

    Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2010 8:50 PM

    Subject: Re: [ENTREP] What is the number of students taking entrepreneurship courses?

     

    I think most intelligent entrepreneurs know that if you need to take an academic course in Entrepreneurship you aren't one.

    Hope for the USA? "If something is unsustainable, it will stop."
    --Herb Stein, an economic adviser to Richard Nixon
    Romie F. Littrell, BA, MBA,PhD, FIAIR, An fánaí fiáin
    AUT Business School N.Z., romie.littrell@aut.ac.nz
    http://www.romielittrellpubs.homestead.com/
    Facilitator, Leadership & Management in Sub-Sahara Africa Conferences
    Contents copyright Romie F. Littrell

    --- On Sat, 15/5/10, Geoff Archer <Geoff.Archer@ROYALROADS.CA> wrote:


    From: Geoff Archer <Geoff.Archer@ROYALROADS.CA>
    Subject: [ENTREP] What is the number of students taking entrepreneurship courses?
    To: ENTREP@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU
    Date: Saturday, 15 May, 2010, 11:09

    Do any of you know how many American students take a college-level (or higher) entrepreneurship course in their lifetime?

     

    Could you answer the same question for other English speaking countries ?

     

    Do you know where I could look?  

     

    Thanks

    Geoff Archer, PhD

    Associate Professor

    & Director of the Eric C. Douglass Centre for Entrepreneurial Studies

    Royal Roads University

    Victoria, BC Canada

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  • 6.  What is the number of students taking entrepreneurship courses?

    Posted 12-17-2010 15:38

    (I know this is now an older thread, but thought I might stoke the coals.)

     

    At a minimum we can instill the confidence into students that they have an alternative to being an employee. Coupled with some business basics, this is a powerful lesson for them to learn.

    Entrepreneurs may not care for the certification, but they do appreciate education.

     

    So, to build on Alistair's comments, the question is .. how early can one foster awareness for entrepreneurship as a career alternative? How about high-school?

    See p. 12-14 of Business / Higher Education Round Table (B-HERT) issue 29 (Entrepreneurship: Creative Construction) for ideas: (6MB)

    http://www.bhert.com/publications/newsletter/index.html

     

     

    Martin

     

    PS: When I surveyed my class about the outcome of having taken the Fundamentals in Innovation and Entrepreneurship course over the last two years, most decided to take more courses in entrepreneurship. No overnight successes (yet).

     

    Dr. Martin J. Bliemel
    Lecturer; Director, Centre for Innovation & Entreprenuership
    mbliemel@unsw.edu.au
    o: +61 (0)2 – 9385 5671

    Australian School of Business
    Strategy and Entrepreneurship
    University of New South Wales
    East Wing 5th Floor, 566
    UNSW Sydney, NSW 2052
    Australia

    www.cie.unsw.edu.au

     

     

     

     

    From: Entrepreneurship Division Listserv [mailto:ENTREP@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU] On Behalf Of Alistair Anderson (abs)
    Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 18:00
    To: ENTREP@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU
    Subject: Re: [ENTREP] What is the number of students taking entrepreneurship courses?

     

    I wonder if we are missing a crucial point here.

     

     On one hand there are probably some entrepreneurial qualities, or attitudes, that can't be taught. But most new businesses fail, so having these entrepreneurial essences, (if they exist) is hardly a guarantee of success. But we can teach, and importantly theorise, better ways of starting a business. I suspect that knowing how is much more important than being a born "pilot".

     

    Sincerely

    Alistair

    Professor Alistair R Anderson

    Editor of Entrepreneurship & Regional Development; Director of the Centre for Entrepreneurship


    From: Entrepreneurship Division Listserv [mailto:ENTREP@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU] On Behalf Of Dr. Bill Todorovic
    Sent: 21 May 2010 00:22
    To: ENTREP@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU
    Subject: Re: [ENTREP] What is the number of students taking entrepreneurship courses?

     

    This is an interesting topic. Entrepreneurship ability can be presented similar to ability to fly an aircraft. Some are naturally born pilots, while others will never be pilots. For these groups training will not help.

     

    However, what about the entrepreneurs (or pilots) in between. I think that entrepreneurship training is as important as pilot training. Can you imagine if we had people flying planes everywhere with no training.

     

    I think that the real question is how do we train entrepreneurs both the "ground school" and "in cockpit" (also known as dynamic) components.

     

    If anyone has any information relating to their experiences on the dynamic component of entrepreneurship education (i.e. the "in cockpit" part), please let me know.

     

    Bill

     

    Dr. Želimir William Todorovic
    Guest Editor, Journal of Entrepreneurship and Small Business
     
    Richard T. Doermer School of Business and Management
    Indiana - Purdue University, Fort Wayne
    2101 E. Coliseum Blvd.
    Fort Wayne, Indiana, 46805-1499
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    (260) 481 6940

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    Subject: Re: [ENTREP] What is the number of students taking entrepreneurship courses?

     

    I think most intelligent entrepreneurs know that if you need to take an academic course in Entrepreneurship you aren't one.

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    From: Geoff Archer <Geoff.Archer@ROYALROADS.CA>
    Subject: [ENTREP] What is the number of students taking entrepreneurship courses?
    To: ENTREP@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU
    Date: Saturday, 15 May, 2010, 11:09

    Do any of you know how many American students take a college-level (or higher) entrepreneurship course in their lifetime?

     

    Could you answer the same question for other English speaking countries ?

     

    Do you know where I could look?  

     

    Thanks

    Geoff Archer, PhD

    Associate Professor

    & Director of the Eric C. Douglass Centre for Entrepreneurial Studies

    Royal Roads University

    Victoria, BC Canada

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  • 7.  What is the number of students taking entrepreneurship courses?

    Posted 12-19-2010 15:10
    We can certainly foster awareness of entrepreneurship at high school.  I'm involved in a local high school programme where students build companies over an entire year, competing for both the success in building the company and for their school team to beat the other schools.  When they go on to University, the students can enter the Audacious Businesss Plan Competition, from which the winners get a raft of support to build their businesses.
     
    I've found students very keen on the process, but struggling with the "Is this really for me?" question.  I wrote "Becoming an Entrepreneur" (www.becominganentrepreneur.biz) because, although it's all very well to encourage potential entrepreneurs, and to show them how to build companies, they also need to decide if the have, or want to have, the 'right stuff'.  My experience building 40 companies has shown me that a few people seem born with the 'right stuff', but many more can acquire it... if they really want it.  But young people don't know enough about the attributes and behaviours of successful entrepreneurs to know if it's what they want.
     
    Many books written about, or by, entrepreneurs ascribe a mythical-hero role to the entrepreneur.  Although it makes for entertaining reading, most successful entrepreneurs are not Bransonic super-heroes. I'd like to see more young people coached to study the real behaviours of entrepreneurs.  The field may lose some mystery in the process, but the business community would benefit from more people realising that they can be entrepreneurs.
     
    Norman Evans

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    2010/12/18 Martin Bliemel <mbliemel@unsw.edu.au>

    (I know this is now an older thread, but thought I might stoke the coals.)

     

    At a minimum we can instill the confidence into students that they have an alternative to being an employee. Coupled with some business basics, this is a powerful lesson for them to learn.

    Entrepreneurs may not care for the certification, but they do appreciate education.

     

    So, to build on Alistair’s comments, the question is .. how early can one foster awareness for entrepreneurship as a career alternative? How about high-school?

    See p. 12-14 of Business / Higher Education Round Table (B-HERT) issue 29 (Entrepreneurship: Creative Construction) for ideas: (6MB)

    http://www.bhert.com/publications/newsletter/index.html

     

     

    Martin

     

    PS: When I surveyed my class about the outcome of having taken the Fundamentals in Innovation and Entrepreneurship course over the last two years, most decided to take more courses in entrepreneurship. No overnight successes (yet).

     

    Dr. Martin J. Bliemel
    Lecturer; Director, Centre for Innovation & Entreprenuership
    mbliemel@unsw.edu.au
    o: +61 (0)2 – 9385 5671

    Australian School of Business
    Strategy and Entrepreneurship
    University of New South Wales
    East Wing 5th Floor, 566
    UNSW Sydney, NSW 2052
    Australia

    www.cie.unsw.edu.au

     

     

     

     

    From: Entrepreneurship Division Listserv [mailto:ENTREP@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU] On Behalf Of Alistair Anderson (abs)
    Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 18:00
    To: ENTREP@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU
    Subject: Re: [ENTREP] What is the number of students taking entrepreneurship courses?

     

    I wonder if we are missing a crucial point here.

     

     On one hand there are probably some entrepreneurial qualities, or attitudes, that can’t be taught. But most new businesses fail, so having these entrepreneurial essences, (if they exist) is hardly a guarantee of success. But we can teach, and importantly theorise, better ways of starting a business. I suspect that knowing how is much more important than being a born “pilot”.

     

    Sincerely

    Alistair

    Professor Alistair R Anderson

    Editor of Entrepreneurship & Regional Development; Director of the Centre for Entrepreneurship


    From: Entrepreneurship Division Listserv [mailto:ENTREP@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU] On Behalf Of Dr. Bill Todorovic
    Sent: 21 May 2010 00:22
    To: ENTREP@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU
    Subject: Re: [ENTREP] What is the number of students taking entrepreneurship courses?

     

    This is an interesting topic. Entrepreneurship ability can be presented similar to ability to fly an aircraft. Some are naturally born pilots, while others will never be pilots. For these groups training will not help.

     

    However, what about the entrepreneurs (or pilots) in between. I think that entrepreneurship training is as important as pilot training. Can you imagine if we had people flying planes everywhere with no training.

     

    I think that the real question is how do we train entrepreneurs both the "ground school" and "in cockpit" (also known as dynamic) components.

     

    If anyone has any information relating to their experiences on the dynamic component of entrepreneurship education (i.e. the "in cockpit" part), please let me know.

     

    Bill

     

    Dr. Želimir William Todorovic
    Guest Editor, Journal of Entrepreneurship and Small Business
     
    Richard T. Doermer School of Business and Management
    Indiana - Purdue University, Fort Wayne
    2101 E. Coliseum Blvd.
    Fort Wayne, Indiana, 46805-1499
    Web:http://users.ipfw.edu/todorovz/
    (260) 481 6940

    ----- Original Message -----

    Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2010 8:50 PM

    Subject: Re: [ENTREP] What is the number of students taking entrepreneurship courses?

     

    I think most intelligent entrepreneurs know that if you need to take an academic course in Entrepreneurship you aren't one.

    Hope for the USA? “If something is unsustainable, it will stop.”
    --Herb Stein, an economic adviser to Richard Nixon
    Romie F. Littrell, BA, MBA,PhD, FIAIR, An fánaí fiáin
    AUT Business School N.Z., romie.littrell@aut.ac.nz
    http://www.romielittrellpubs.homestead.com/
    Facilitator, Leadership & Management in Sub-Sahara Africa Conferences
    Contents copyright Romie F. Littrell

    --- On Sat, 15/5/10, Geoff Archer <Geoff.Archer@ROYALROADS.CA> wrote:


    From: Geoff Archer <Geoff.Archer@ROYALROADS.CA>
    Subject: [ENTREP] What is the number of students taking entrepreneurship courses?
    To: ENTREP@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU
    Date: Saturday, 15 May, 2010, 11:09

    Do any of you know how many American students take a college-level (or higher) entrepreneurship course in their lifetime?

     

    Could you answer the same question for other English speaking countries ?

     

    Do you know where I could look?  

     

    Thanks

    Geoff Archer, PhD

    Associate Professor

    & Director of the Eric C. Douglass Centre for Entrepreneurial Studies

    Royal Roads University

    Victoria, BC Canada

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