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  • 1.  Dragon's Den and Shark Tank

    Posted 01-12-2010 14:09

    I am planning to do one of my Business Week columns on what, if anything, the reality TV shows Dragon's Den and Shark Tank teach people about raising money from business angels.

     

    I'm wondering :

     

    1.       If any of you use episodes in your entrepreneurship classes and if so how?

    2.       What you think these shows teach and fail to teach about raising money from business angels.

     

    If you answer me, please tell me if you want your statements for attribution or not for attribution.  If you answer me and it's not for attribution, then I reserve the right to steal your ideas when I write the column.

     

    Regards,

     

    Scott Shane

    A. Malachi Mixon III Professor of Entrepreneurial Studies

    Department of Economics

    Weatherhead School of Management

    Case Western Reserve University

    11119 Bellflower Road

    Cleveland, OH 44106

    Tel: (216) 368-5538

    Fax: (216) 368-5039

    email: scott.shane@case.edu

     

    See my column on entrepreneurship at Business Week

    http://www.businessweek.com/bios/Scott_Shane.htm

     

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  • 2.  Dragon's Den and Shark Tank

    Posted 01-13-2010 03:05
    Hello Scott,

    I use a couple of mini-videos from the UK Dragon's Den show in my MBA class. The first provides a very clear dose of reality about 4 critical, down-to-earth elements of any new venture (cash, common sense, contingency and homework). For some unfathomable reason (!!!) 3 minutes with Dragon Theo Paphitis convinces my students far more than 3 hours of me saying the same things. Plus it changes the teaching medium a little.

    The second is a bit of fun: Levi Root's musical pitch for Reggae Reggae sauce, which I use when we're talking about presenting plans, to remind them they need to be creative and compelling.

    This year the class and I then ended up sending each other spoofs, parodies, and interesting video links around these themes, which helped keep us all engaged with the class, and motivated. (My favourite is the Ali G ice cream glove spoof. I wish I had the courage to show this in class and wait to see how long it takes before someones figures out it's satire. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDu9CvbrnlM&feature=related )

    Anyway, here are the links to my 2 class videos. Enjoy. Attribute or not as works best for your column, which I'll look forward to reading.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7jjE5I8MJU

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jkGw5VIC-c

    Warm wishes from Athens, Sarah


    Sarah Drakopoulou Dodd
    Associate Professor of Entrepreneurship
    Director or AHEAD
    ALBA Graduate School of Business
    ________________________________

    Από: Entrepreneurship Division Listserv εκ μέρους Scott Shane
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    Θέμα: [ENTREP] Dragon's Den and Shark Tank



    I am planning to do one of my Business Week columns on what, if anything, the reality TV shows Dragon's Den and Shark Tank teach people about raising money from business angels.



    I'm wondering :



    1. If any of you use episodes in your entrepreneurship classes and if so how?

    2. What you think these shows teach and fail to teach about raising money from business angels.



    If you answer me, please tell me if you want your statements for attribution or not for attribution. If you answer me and it's not for attribution, then I reserve the right to steal your ideas when I write the column.



    Regards,



    Scott Shane

    A. Malachi Mixon III Professor of Entrepreneurial Studies

    Department of Economics

    Weatherhead School of Management

    Case Western Reserve University

    11119 Bellflower Road

    Cleveland, OH 44106

    Tel: (216) 368-5538

    Fax: (216) 368-5039

    email: scott.shane@case.edu



    See my column on entrepreneurship at Business Week

    http://www.businessweek.com/bios/Scott_Shane.htm



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  • 3.  Dragon's Den and Shark Tank

    Posted 01-13-2010 04:07
    As a follow up to Sarah's comments I have drawn on Dragon's Den to
    draw attention to the fact that for purposes of TV dramaturgy the
    negotiation process for deals that are offered is attenuated and
    therefore possibly misrepresented, but also use the material to
    demonstrate (a) that very few entrepreneurs appear to understand the
    basis for the valuation of their venture and (b) that valuation
    differences lie behind the failure to connsumate many deals. The
    other aspect of Dragon's Den that has pedagogic value is the Where are
    they now' review programmes, and especially those tracking the success
    of ventures unequivocally rejected by investors, to demonstrate that
    investors are not infallible and that the issue of 'fit' between
    entrepreneur/venture and investor is central to the investment process.

    Feel free to attribute if you see fit. Trust this helps

    Richard


    Richard T Harrison
    r.harrison@qub.ac.uk
    Queen's University Management School


    On 13 Jan 2010, at 08:48, "Dodd Sarah" <dodsarah@alba.edu.gr> wrote:

    > Hello Scott,
    >
    > I use a couple of mini-videos from the UK Dragon's Den show in my
    > MBA class. The first provides a very clear dose of reality about 4
    > critical, down-to-earth elements of any new venture (cash, common
    > sense, contingency and homework). For some unfathomable reason (!!!)
    > 3 minutes with Dragon Theo Paphitis convinces my students far more
    > than 3 hours of me saying the same things. Plus it changes the
    > teaching medium a little.
    >
    > The second is a bit of fun: Levi Root's musical pitch for Reggae
    > Reggae sauce, which I use when we're talking about presenting plans,
    > to remind them they need to be creative and compelling.
    >
    > This year the class and I then ended up sending each other spoofs,
    > parodies, and interesting video links around these themes, which
    > helped keep us all engaged with the class, and motivated. (My
    > favourite is the Ali G ice cream glove spoof. I wish I had the
    > courage to show this in class and wait to see how long it takes
    > before someones figures out it's satire. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDu9CvbrnlM&feature=related
    > )
    >
    > Anyway, here are the links to my 2 class videos. Enjoy. Attribute or
    > not as works best for your column, which I'll look forward to reading.
    >
    > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7jjE5I8MJU
    >
    > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jkGw5VIC-c
    >
    > Warm wishes from Athens, Sarah
    >
    >
    > Sarah Drakopoulou Dodd
    > Associate Professor of Entrepreneurship
    > Director or AHEAD
    > ALBA Graduate School of Business
    > ________________________________
    >
    > Από: Entrepreneurship Division Listserv εκ μέρους Scott Sha
    > ne
    > Αποστολή: Τρι 12/1/2010 9:09 μμ
    > Προς: ENTREP@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU
    > Θέμα: [ENTREP] Dragon's Den and Shark Tank
    >
    >
    >
    > I am planning to do one of my Business Week columns on what, if
    > anything, the reality TV shows Dragon's Den and Shark Tank teach
    > people about raising money from business angels.
    >
    >
    >
    > I'm wondering :
    >
    >
    >
    > 1. If any of you use episodes in your entrepreneurship classes
    > and if so how?
    >
    > 2. What you think these shows teach and fail to teach about
    > raising money from business angels.
    >
    >
    >
    > If you answer me, please tell me if you want your statements for
    > attribution or not for attribution. If you answer me and it's not
    > for attribution, then I reserve the right to steal your ideas when I
    > write the column.
    >
    >
    >
    > Regards,
    >
    >
    >
    > Scott Shane
    >
    > A. Malachi Mixon III Professor of Entrepreneurial Studies
    >
    > Department of Economics
    >
    > Weatherhead School of Management
    >
    > Case Western Reserve University
    >
    > 11119 Bellflower Road
    >
    > Cleveland, OH 44106
    >
    > Tel: (216) 368-5538
    >
    > Fax: (216) 368-5039
    >
    > email: scott.shane@case.edu
    >
    >
    >
    > See my column on entrepreneurship at Business Week
    >
    > http://www.businessweek.com/bios/Scott_Shane.htm
    >
    >
    >
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  • 4.  Dragon's Den and Shark Tank

    Posted 01-13-2010 04:16
    Scott / Sarah

    Apologies for hijacking this conversation but it is a lot more interesting than the marking on my desk.

    Sarah, the two class videos are brilliant and I will use them in my forthcoming entrepreneurship classes. However, a word of warning, I did use a comedic youtube video on creativity in a tutorial session last year but my undergraduate students just did not get the comedy of it. The clip had us as lecturers in stitches but it must have been a generational thing because none of my classes made the connection. It just does not work when you have to explain a joke. The same stands fore using fictional TV characters such as Arthur Daley and Del Boy as representations of entrepreneurship. We get it but the younger generation not raised on the comedy just do not get it.

    The notion of spoofs and parodies are fascinating and there are some really good youtube videos parodying Sir Alan Sugar of Apprentice fame. This is a really under researched area.

    As a scholar what fascinates me is the pejorative use of metaphor - Dragons Den, Shark Tank, Devils Cauldron etc which may send students the wrong message - Dragons, Sharks and Devils. Is that the image we really have of the entrepreneur. In terms of finance, I think that the shows demonstrate that the entrepreneurs are not angels, but demonic schemers. It is the business (devil) who usually gets the best deal.

    Personally, I think the value of the Dragons Den type scenarios is that they teach students and prospective entrepreneurs more about 'performative entrepreneurship' and about performing as if they were an entrepreneur. Probably the value is in learning how not to perform on stage. It is the business equivalent of the Xfactor whereby for some the publicity and exposure outweighs the sharking.

    There is a funded study being conducted in Britain (on eof the Glasgow Universities) into entretainment and the role of televisual (re)productions of entrepreneurship as entertainment whic may be worth tapping into.

    Anyway back to the marking....

    Rob

    ________________________________

    From: Entrepreneurship Division Listserv on behalf of Dodd Sarah
    Sent: Wed 13/01/2010 08:05
    To: ENTREP@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU
    Subject: Re: [ENTREP] Dragon's Den and Shark Tank



    Hello Scott,

    I use a couple of mini-videos from the UK Dragon's Den show in my MBA class. The first provides a very clear dose of reality about 4 critical, down-to-earth elements of any new venture (cash, common sense, contingency and homework). For some unfathomable reason (!!!) 3 minutes with Dragon Theo Paphitis convinces my students far more than 3 hours of me saying the same things. Plus it changes the teaching medium a little.

    The second is a bit of fun: Levi Root's musical pitch for Reggae Reggae sauce, which I use when we're talking about presenting plans, to remind them they need to be creative and compelling.

    This year the class and I then ended up sending each other spoofs, parodies, and interesting video links around these themes, which helped keep us all engaged with the class, and motivated. (My favourite is the Ali G ice cream glove spoof. I wish I had the courage to show this in class and wait to see how long it takes before someones figures out it's satire. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDu9CvbrnlM&feature=related )

    Anyway, here are the links to my 2 class videos. Enjoy. Attribute or not as works best for your column, which I'll look forward to reading.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7jjE5I8MJU

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jkGw5VIC-c

    Warm wishes from Athens, Sarah


    Sarah Drakopoulou Dodd
    Associate Professor of Entrepreneurship
    Director or AHEAD
    ALBA Graduate School of Business
    ________________________________

    ???: Entrepreneurship Division Listserv ?? ?????? Scott Shane
    ????????: ??? 12/1/2010 9:09 ??
    ????: ENTREP@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU
    ????: [ENTREP] Dragon's Den and Shark Tank



    I am planning to do one of my Business Week columns on what, if anything, the reality TV shows Dragon's Den and Shark Tank teach people about raising money from business angels.



    I'm wondering :



    1. If any of you use episodes in your entrepreneurship classes and if so how?

    2. What you think these shows teach and fail to teach about raising money from business angels.



    If you answer me, please tell me if you want your statements for attribution or not for attribution. If you answer me and it's not for attribution, then I reserve the right to steal your ideas when I write the column.



    Regards,



    Scott Shane

    A. Malachi Mixon III Professor of Entrepreneurial Studies

    Department of Economics

    Weatherhead School of Management

    Case Western Reserve University

    11119 Bellflower Road

    Cleveland, OH 44106

    Tel: (216) 368-5538

    Fax: (216) 368-5039

    email: scott.shane@case.edu



    See my column on entrepreneurship at Business Week

    http://www.businessweek.com/bios/Scott_Shane.htm



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  • 5.  Dragon's Den and Shark Tank

    Posted 01-14-2010 10:12

    Hello Scott,

     

    I have asked my intro to entrepreneurship class to watch Shark Tank and have told them to observe the presentation and try to evaluate the products/presentation themselves.  I ask the students to listen to how the sharks quickly hone in on profit potential, market size, production and distribution issues, and intellectual property rights. We then discuss some of the products and presentation in class, as well as the shark's tactics and use it as a learning exercise prior to the students making their own elevator pitch in class.

     

    Lee Zane,

    Drexel University

     

    From: Entrepreneurship Division Listserv [mailto:ENTREP@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU] On Behalf Of Scott Shane
    Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 2:09 PM
    To: ENTREP@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU
    Subject: [ENTREP] Dragon's Den and Shark Tank

     

    I am planning to do one of my Business Week columns on what, if anything, the reality TV shows Dragon's Den and Shark Tank teach people about raising money from business angels.

     

    I'm wondering :

     

    1.       If any of you use episodes in your entrepreneurship classes and if so how?

    2.       What you think these shows teach and fail to teach about raising money from business angels.

     

    If you answer me, please tell me if you want your statements for attribution or not for attribution.  If you answer me and it's not for attribution, then I reserve the right to steal your ideas when I write the column.

     

    Regards,

     

    Scott Shane

    A. Malachi Mixon III Professor of Entrepreneurial Studies

    Department of Economics

    Weatherhead School of Management

    Case Western Reserve University

    11119 Bellflower Road

    Cleveland, OH 44106

    Tel: (216) 368-5538

    Fax: (216) 368-5039

    email: scott.shane@case.edu

     

    See my column on entrepreneurship at Business Week

    http://www.businessweek.com/bios/Scott_Shane.htm

     

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  • 6.  Dragon's Den and Shark Tank

    Posted 01-17-2010 10:50
    Thanks for your note Rob.

    Of course the metaphor is interesting, but I thought Dragons were
    imaginary and we all know that Peter Blenchley gave Sharks a bad rap!
    Importantly the metaphor is used to describe the Business Angels - not
    the entrepreneurs, it is the BA community that are justifiably upset
    with the show titles and formats - given what we know about their
    motivations (Frear, Sohl and Wetzel, 2002).

    Of course, you are correct about the importance of presentations.
    There is already a good deal of research on the role of impressions
    and performance in pitching to Business Angels (Clark, 2008) that are
    confirmed in the show.

    Finally, from our research, I think that the most important lessons
    that can be learned from the show, are how time constrained investors
    actually make their decisions, and the critical flaws that
    entrepreneurs can make that preclude the possibility of investment
    (Maxwell, Jeffrey and Lévesque, 2009)

    Andrew Maxwell
    University of Waterloo.



    > Scott / Sarah
    >
    > Apologies for hijacking this conversation but it is a lot more
    > interesting than the marking on my desk.
    >
    > Sarah, the two class videos are brilliant and I will use them in my
    > forthcoming entrepreneurship classes. However, a word of warning, I
    > did use a comedic youtube video on creativity in a tutorial session
    > last year but my undergraduate students just did not get the comedy
    > of it. The clip had us as lecturers in stitches but it must have
    > been a generational thing because none of my classes made the
    > connection. It just does not work when you have to explain a joke.
    > The same stands fore using fictional TV characters such as Arthur
    > Daley and Del Boy as representations of entrepreneurship. We get it
    > but the younger generation not raised on the comedy just do not get
    > it.
    >
    > The notion of spoofs and parodies are fascinating and there are some
    > really good youtube videos parodying Sir Alan Sugar of Apprentice
    > fame. This is a really under researched area.
    >
    > As a scholar what fascinates me is the pejorative use of metaphor -
    > Dragons Den, Shark Tank, Devils Cauldron etc which may send students
    > the wrong message - Dragons, Sharks and Devils. Is that the image we
    > really have of the entrepreneur. In terms of finance, I think that
    > the shows demonstrate that the entrepreneurs are not angels, but
    > demonic schemers. It is the business (devil) who usually gets the
    > best deal.
    >
    > Personally, I think the value of the Dragons Den type scenarios is
    > that they teach students and prospective entrepreneurs more about
    > 'performative entrepreneurship' and about performing as if they were
    > an entrepreneur. Probably the value is in learning how not to
    > perform on stage. It is the business equivalent of the Xfactor
    > whereby for some the publicity and exposure outweighs the sharking.
    >
    > There is a funded study being conducted in Britain (on eof the
    > Glasgow Universities) into entretainment and the role of televisual
    > (re)productions of entrepreneurship as entertainment whic may be
    > worth tapping into.
    >
    > Anyway back to the marking....
    >
    > Rob
    >
    > ________________________________
    >
    > From: Entrepreneurship Division Listserv on behalf of Dodd Sarah
    > Sent: Wed 13/01/2010 08:05
    > To: ENTREP@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU
    > Subject: Re: [ENTREP] Dragon's Den and Shark Tank
    >
    >
    >
    > Hello Scott,
    >
    > I use a couple of mini-videos from the UK Dragon's Den show in my
    > MBA class. The first provides a very clear dose of reality about 4
    > critical, down-to-earth elements of any new venture (cash, common
    > sense, contingency and homework). For some unfathomable reason (!!!)
    > 3 minutes with Dragon Theo Paphitis convinces my students far more
    > than 3 hours of me saying the same things. Plus it changes the
    > teaching medium a little.
    >
    > The second is a bit of fun: Levi Root's musical pitch for Reggae
    > Reggae sauce, which I use when we're talking about presenting plans,
    > to remind them they need to be creative and compelling.
    >
    > This year the class and I then ended up sending each other spoofs,
    > parodies, and interesting video links around these themes, which
    > helped keep us all engaged with the class, and motivated. (My
    > favourite is the Ali G ice cream glove spoof. I wish I had the
    > courage to show this in class and wait to see how long it takes
    > before someones figures out it's satire.
    > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDu9CvbrnlM&feature=related )
    >
    > Anyway, here are the links to my 2 class videos. Enjoy. Attribute or
    > not as works best for your column, which I'll look forward to reading.
    >
    > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7jjE5I8MJU
    >
    > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jkGw5VIC-c
    >
    > Warm wishes from Athens, Sarah
    >
    >
    > Sarah Drakopoulou Dodd
    > Associate Professor of Entrepreneurship
    > Director or AHEAD
    > ALBA Graduate School of Business
    > ________________________________
    >
    > ???: Entrepreneurship Division Listserv ?? ?????? Scott Shane
    > ????????: ??? 12/1/2010 9:09 ??
    > ????: ENTREP@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU
    > ????: [ENTREP] Dragon's Den and Shark Tank
    >
    >
    >
    > I am planning to do one of my Business Week columns on what, if
    > anything, the reality TV shows Dragon's Den and Shark Tank teach
    > people about raising money from business angels.
    >
    >
    >
    > I'm wondering :
    >
    >
    >
    > 1. If any of you use episodes in your entrepreneurship classes
    > and if so how?
    >
    > 2. What you think these shows teach and fail to teach about
    > raising money from business angels.
    >
    >
    >
    > If you answer me, please tell me if you want your statements for
    > attribution or not for attribution. If you answer me and it's not
    > for attribution, then I reserve the right to steal your ideas when I
    > write the column.
    >
    >
    >
    > Regards,
    >
    >
    >
    > Scott Shane
    >
    > A. Malachi Mixon III Professor of Entrepreneurial Studies
    >
    > Department of Economics
    >
    > Weatherhead School of Management
    >
    > Case Western Reserve University
    >
    > 11119 Bellflower Road
    >
    > Cleveland, OH 44106
    >
    > Tel: (216) 368-5538
    >
    > Fax: (216) 368-5039
    >
    > email: scott.shane@case.edu
    >
    >
    >
    > See my column on entrepreneurship at Business Week
    >
    > http://www.businessweek.com/bios/Scott_Shane.htm
    >
    >
    >
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  • 7.  Dragon's Den and Shark Tank

    Posted 01-17-2010 18:09
    Scott, it is drama of course, and I doubt if angels make decisions in that
    manner. In my involvement in VC, except for the technology boom period when we
    saw some shooting from the hip in bought-out deals, I have not come across
    investment decisions made in that fashion. Even when there was a parade papers
    were available in advance. Individual angels, I believe, are even more keen to
    check out very closely. I think these serials are not the right learning
    avenues for a generation that has grown up to expect to be delivering instant
    knock-out punches, and are now confused seeing the reality of hard times and
    crashes.

    You could attribute the knock-out punch bit if you like - I like to tell
    students to watch out for that ethos. Cheers, Sanjay


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    Auckland University of Technology
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