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Teaching a class where actual student ventures are created: how contracting and tax issues managed?

  • 1.  Teaching a class where actual student ventures are created: how contracting and tax issues managed?

    Posted 02-20-2008 19:41
    Dear all,

    I currently teach a required capstone course at Missouri S&T (formerly University of Missouri-Rolla), where student teams obtain funding, create ventures and generate revenue. In the past the ventures have been small, where students haven't minded putting their names on contracts with vendors. However, the ventures are starting to grow in size and complexity.

    I'm wondering how other programs are handling all the types of contracting (e.g. with suppliers) and tax issues (e.g. team expenses and profit) that arise after teams have been funded. I'm happy to compile all responses, and send the compilation to respondents.

    Cheers,
    -Chihmao Hsieh

    -----------------------------
    Chihmao Hsieh
    Assistant Professor
    107H Fulton Hall
    Department of Business Administration
    Missouri University of Science & Technology
    Rolla, MO 65401
    http://www.mst.edu/~hsiehc

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  • 2.  Teaching a class where actual student ventures are created: how contracting and tax issues managed?

    Posted 02-21-2008 16:15
    My experience has been that a few students do mind being required to put
    their own money on the line, even if it's no more than $1, so if you are
    going to use real money, it should come from someone other than the
    students. Either way, handling real money is a hassle. Moreover, you
    could be charged with aiding and abetting the breaking state law on
    gambling, depending on how the ventures are run.

    So, I now use play money, and have the students create ventures as a
    game. A demo of my game is available at:
    http://pages.towson.edu/precha/geonetd5.exe. Select Run/Open at all
    security warnings. Do not save the program, as I upgrade the server
    regularly. A saved program may not work correctly after an upgrade.

    When the program unzips and launches itself, an Access-to-GEO dialog box
    will appear. Select the Register button, and register yourself using a
    fictitious name. When you OK the registration, the program's main frame
    will appear. You can do anything you like at that point as it's a demo.

    When the demo exits, it cleans up after itself, leaving nothing on the
    computer. You must have Microsoft's .Net Framework installed for the
    demo to work. If you don't have it installed, you can download it free
    (I suggest Version 2) from Microsoft's Web site: http://www.msdn.com.

    I don't market the simulation, so there's no cost to you or to your
    students. I do ask interested parties to send me a postal letter of
    request on institutional letterhead giving me information about intended
    usage: class size, course name, course level, number of students, start
    dates, stop date, and institutional Web site. Depending on
    circumstances, more than one party may be joined in a simulation
    experience.

    Best,

    Precha
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    Professor of Management
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    Subject: [ENTREP] Teaching a class where actual student ventures are
    created: how contracting and tax issues managed?

    Dear all,

    I currently teach a required capstone course at Missouri S&T (formerly
    University of Missouri-Rolla), where student teams obtain funding,
    create ventures and generate revenue. In the past the ventures have
    been small, where students haven't minded putting their names on
    contracts with vendors. However, the ventures are starting to grow in
    size and complexity.

    I'm wondering how other programs are handling all the types of
    contracting (e.g. with suppliers) and tax issues (e.g. team expenses and
    profit) that arise after teams have been funded. I'm happy to compile
    all responses, and send the compilation to respondents.

    Cheers,
    -Chihmao Hsieh

    -----------------------------
    Chihmao Hsieh
    Assistant Professor
    107H Fulton Hall
    Department of Business Administration
    Missouri University of Science & Technology Rolla, MO 65401
    http://www.mst.edu/~hsiehc

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    Ventures HO!

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